The latest theories about Red John's identity (page 569)

After the episode "Red Listed", a group of shadowy police figures were confirmed. They all use the phrase "Tiger Tiger" as a sort of password. I think that Red John is not a single person. But an alias used by multiple people within the organization. For sure Bertram,McAllister, and Smith are part of this group . This group might have ties with Visualize so Stiles and Haffner may also use the Red John alias . Also the last thing Brett Partridge said before he died was "Tiger Tiger", so he might be a part of the group also, and was killed off by one of the other members.

In conclusion, I think Red John is everybody on Jane's suspect list EXCEPT Robert Kirkland.

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Despite my name, I believe it is Bret Stiles, and for many reasons. It seems sort of obvious, but I could be far off.
1. We haven't seen him at all(once?) this season(6) if he is RJ, he may be wanting to lay low for a while. Or Bruno H is pulling our legs!
2. Visualize! Up until now,6.4, it has lead us to believe that RJ is with a group, Or a group of people himself (he is mar, he is many idea) my idea was that visualize is the cover up or some other group that BS is also in charge of. The way to know if you're in the other group inside visualize, the phrase Tyger, Tyger. In 6.4 they prove that Tyger Tyger is the phrase they say to show who they are. At the end of the episode (SPOILERS) the guard says Tyger Tyger, showing that it is more than just the 7 suspects in the group. Bret Stiles is in charge of visualize, which is a cover up for the RJ group.
3. Evidence from tape. The tape for the therapist says he is shorter than 6 foot. Bret is, and he is older than 30. To have commuted the crimes he would have to be older or at least 30(look at clues for this website) also, I could just see him being a whistler ;).
4. IMPORTANT! In 6.4 they kill bob Mcallister this proves it can not (NOT!) be the great red dragon idea. Now 2 of te suspects are dead, and the theory states only one is "dead". This discredits it, and shows that not all the suspects work for RJ.
IMHO, Bret stiles is red John. He hasn't been seen for a bit, he's old enough, and he is smart enough. He can use visualize as a cover up, and he is the only 1 of te 5 I could see being RJ.

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I don't know who RJ is, but I have theories about other issues:

PATRIDGE IS REALLY DEAD.

Patridge saying Tiger Tiger confirms he was a part of the Tiger Tiger organisation. (He couldn't have been just aware it existed and not a member, RJ doesn't work like that, he would have killed Patridge long ago then.)

Patridge works CSI, so he must have been covering RJ's tracks up till now. So when Heller said Patridge had to die? It's not because he is RJ and wanted himself off the list. (The list had 7 suspects. It's not like Jane had narrowed it down. So why fake his death?) It's because he was going to diverge information about RJ or the Tiger Tiger organisation, or he had made a mistake.

So when he said Tiger Tiger to Lisbon? There are two possibilities:

1. He thought Lisbon was part of the organisation and wanted her to help him live.

2. He was trying to tell Lisbon about the organisation.

VISUALIZE CONNECT:

I'm pretty confident I got this one right.

1. RJ is a member of Visualize. (We've known for long)

2. Visualize has dirty secrets as a cult. The Tiger Tiger organisation covers them up and makes sure the government doesn't shut it off. In return, Visualize assists RJ to cover his tracks.

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Brett Partridge is dead.
Bob Kirkland is dead.
Sheriff Thomas Mcallister will be deleted from the list after a short period of time.
Bret Stiles, elderly.
Gale Bertram, bald.
Reede Smith, fat

Ray Haffner = Red John

In addition,

Red John :http://i.imgflip.com/4a7bq.gif

Ray Haffner : http://i.imgflip.com/4a7e2.gif

Walking. :)

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/fall-tv/the-mentalist--closes-in-on-red-john---the-list-is-down-to-five-na...

Rebecca Cutter : What does that mean for our countdown? Well, according to Cutter, we were a little early crossing Tom McAllister off the list, but she definitely confirmed that Partridge and ... well, you'll have to watch to find out who is off the list. The entire writers' room (not just show creator Bruno Heller) had input into how Red John is finally discovered, and Cutter promised, "It'll be a good reveal. There's a lot of twists and turns to get there."

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They told us that in this episode we would find out the reason why Brett Partridge was murdered...but we didn't. Yes, Partridge said "Tyger, Tyger" before he died, and yes, we found out that Tyger Tyger is the password for a "group" of people within the CBI/FBI. Yet..that still tells us NOTHING about why Partridge would be murdered. Was he a liability? How? Why was it necessary that he be eliminated? He seems so fascinated by and admiring of Red John..why would he ever try to reveal his identity (if he knew it.) Doesn't seem like he would want to betray someone who seems to be an idol to him. Here is my humble opinion:

I still choose to believe that Partridge is Red John and faked his own death. Why? Because there is still no proof to show me I'm wrong. And until Red John is revealed to be someone else, I will not change my opinion. Honestly, I think all of the other suspects would be disappointing. There would be no "wow" factor, no "Didn't see that coming" as said in the words of Sheriff McAllister. Just think of how awesome a moment it will be if/when Jane gathers all of the remaining suspects together in "Fire and Brimstone" and he suddenly realizes something, and he turns around and says "Red John is none of these men." Now THERE would be a shock factor! Still crossing my fingers for Partridge.

What do you guys think?

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Heller did a great job at making people believe Kirkland (and Partridge) was Red John (or a friend of his), I'll give him that.

My take (short version);

I'm talking about the man doing the killing. If it is the same person killing all those people then in my mind it's Ray Haffner. I just can't see the others on the list doing the killing, being the person who thrashed
Rosalind (blind woman) and at the same time being the person with good posture/excellent whistler who met Jane's shrink.

McAllister, Bertrum & Smith are merely parts (pawns) of the super secret best friends club. Inside info, keep an eye on Jane, etc

Styles is a codger who probably knows Red John (possibly funds RJ's shennanigans if needed) and the other suspects (some, maybe not all).

The soft voice of Red John is what always throws me. It must be technologically altered somehow because none of these guys sound like RJ whenever his voice is heard.

If it is one of those 7 (now down to 5) then it's Ray Haffner. I'm still expecting to find out that RJ is none of these guys at all. Feel free to disagree. A lot of fantastic arguments on this site.

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So here's a thought...what if Red John is Michael Kirkland, Bob Kirkland's twin brother?

Bob hesitated when Patrick asked him if Red John killed his brother and answered in a way that seemed very much 'he killed the brother I knew, he's as good as dead, etc.". His body was never found and he was never heard from.

The Kirkland brothers had a rough and abusive childhood, which clearly manifested in some psychosis on the part of Bob and caused his brother to spiral downward.

Patrick could have shaken his hand at any point thinking he was speaking to Bob - it would be easy for Michael to accomplish this as a twin and with the manipulating skills we know Red John to possess.

Also, this would add some wow factor the the big reveal, as he is not on the list of suspects that we have left, but only because Patrick may not be aware that he encountered the twin, rather than Bob.

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