Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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We can safely say that the list is down to 2 people.
Here's how:

Brett Partridge- dead

Reede Smith- not red john, as we saw in 6x04..he kills but not with RJ's MO.

Gale Bertram- Unlikely. He seems to be part of the tyger tyger group, but unlikely that he is RJ. He is definitely lower in grade than Smith. We can understand that from the way Smith talks to him "Its your job to know the answer." and bertram responds sincerely "i'm doing my best" as if he is being ordered by someone higher up.

Bret Stiles- Not likely to be red john. Because when RJ goes to see sophie miller, he needs to have anonymity. Nobody should be able to recognise him. And stiles is kinda Famous. And like jane said, RJ might have wanted to meet sophie himself. So somebody else didnt go. The one who went was RJ himself.

Ray Haffner- Possible, since we still dont know much about him.

Sheriff McAllister- Possible. He whistles, he's afraid of pigeons, he's not afraid of heights. He's been there since the beginning. We dont know much else.


Now here's the interesting part:

Bob Kirkland- There's a reason jane puts him on the list. He is actually putting Michael kirkland on the list, not Bob. He just doesnt know it. Now we can say jane is clever enough to know that Michael exists and is alive, it can justify most of the stuff that bob did. Because it was michael who actually did all the stuff jane found suspicious.
But we can rule out Michael as RJ because Bob said when michael was drunk n troubled, he found someone who put him straight and who asked only for devotion and sacrifice in return. That person is red john, Not Michael or Bob.
Now that we think abt it, in season 5, Michael was probably instructed by RJ to kill Jason Lennon. That is why he asked "do u recognise me?". Both the twin brothers ask that so that they know if anyone has seen the other one.
Michael is definitely alive, because he meets with bertram in season 5. (He's hiding behind the door when Lisbon is talking to bertram in his office)

So, the only remaining viable suspects are McAllister and Haffner.
Any one of them could be Red John.


Please feel free to comment or add something to my theory!

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hi all

i think Karmen lee is the key to know every thing. i guess it's the code that Jane reminds Dr miller. in fact red john wants that Jane follow this lead. so i think what ever we now about Roth and the tape is not the real clue. i know at the end, we reach mcalister who has phobia about birds which makes him the best suspect. but it is what rj wants to be. maybe something about whistler was right about Red john. 

and i think the tiger tiger is the password for organization which rj is not member. maybe they are hostiles for red john. actually it makes sense for me.. because it has no meaning that Rj kills his teammates.


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The major clue at the end of the episode where Brett Partridge gets killed:
 not the pigeons
 not 666
 not tiger tiger
 not none of those.

It's that the Lisbon in this scene is LEFT-HANDED.


 

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Watch any episode where P.J. looks over an edge, he's skiddish. When he is threatened with physical pain, he's a coward. Tiger Tiger poem is about burning tiger poachers' furs so they don't go on black market. (Destroy the thing you love most to save the ones that remain.) Think this correlates some how to P.J. killing own wife and kid.
Also P.J. has ties with Brett Styles. Who  could have been the person to hypnotize P.J. into becoming "patrick jane" (pink/light feminine) instead of 'red john' (red/dark masculine). And PJ would have needed someone with that skill to hypnotize him. Maybe that's why he went to a job field similar to a detective, so he could find his clues and piece them together? 
Bob kirkland reveals Homeland/fbi have been looking into PJ being red john for 8-9 yrs show is only 6th season. Why would they look into PJ prior to wife and child's murder. (Roughly 7-8 yrs ago in their timeline.) I also thought weird how in the episode RJ saved jane, and first said Tiger Tiger lines, it voice decoded as jane's. And now we see Tiger Tiger is a code word for some kind of occult. Maybe that was a member giving a message to another member. I think Jane planned things out prior to the murder. If it was a murder? (Hightower died and returned within 1 episode.)
He fits the description of red john, both physical, and now presence (His ex therapist's dictation recorder)
I don't think it can ALL be coincidence. But I'm probably wrong. Kudos to the writers!! 

So, Patrick Jane is Red John. He took on the persona in order to see who was tracking him down, what information they had, and disperse them from the side "red john" can't. Tiger Tiger- Destroy the things he's come to love "lisbon" in order to save the rest "wife and child" who aren't dead????!!

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I think Red John is a completely different issue from the Tyger, Tyger issue. Tyger, Tyger is most likely, what it was stated to be, some secret organization of law enforcement. Red John may or may not be a member since all the people on the list except Brett Stiles are some form of law enforcement. Partridge was probably involved with Tyger Tyger and said these words to Lisbon thinking she was
(Or IS) a member. Why would he think this? Remember the poker game she was invited to start playing in with all of those high level law enforcement people?? My theory is this was the first step to being invited into the organization. A sort of "trial run" to see if they wanted to formally invite her in. Because those poker games made no sense otherwise until now. What we don't know is was she invited in? I think Tyger Tyger is something, that if the show survives to see another season ( here's hoping it does!) will be the next storyline to follow.
Who do I think Red John is? If I have to guess I'd say Ray Haffner, but that is just a guess.

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I think that red john is the orginization. Not just one person but all of them, which is how he knows so much and has the ability to access all these different places

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Nick Nordella appears in both episode 6x07, The Great Red Dragon and 6x08, Red John, as shown on the IMDB website. His appearance in these two episodes has led many people (including myself) to believe that he plays the young Red John from the Visualize owned 'Elliston Farm' in 1998.

The two actors from the list of seven (five remaining) suspects who Nordella resembles the most closely are Sheriff Thomas McAllister and Raymond Haffner. I have no doubt that Haffner is a very strong suspect but i believe that McAllister is Red John.

This is due to his age. The actor who plays McAllister (
Xander Berkeley) was born in 1955. This makes him 58 currently. Therefore, he was 33 when Red John killed the Visualize members in the barn (as shown on Season 5 Episode 13- The Red Barn). The priest in this episode (Kyle Secor) told Jane that Martin Talbot told him ‘some kid’ drew the face. At the age of 33 at this point, Berkley would be unlikely to be referred to as a 'kid' by anyone. However, the age of Berkley's character (Thomas Mcallister) on the show is 50. This means that in 1988, he was 25. This makes him much more likely to fit Talbot's description of a kid.

Returning to the point of Nick Nordella, he is currently aged 25. The character of Thomas McAllister was 25 in 1988 because the writers changed Berkley's age. Coincidence? I think not. Nordella resembles a young McAllister. And they have changed Berkley's age to make McAllister and Nordella the same age at this point. Why do this? Because Thomas McAllister is Red John

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