Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Guys I just posted that it is Bob and not Michael who is Red John

Here is an interesting insight that Khalid left in the comments. He says

"you remember when Kirkland kidnap Patrick Jane to ask him about the list in season 6 ep.4 .. Kirkland said: "I am willing to kill 7 people to get the job done" ... how did he know that Patrick real list has 7 number of suspects !!!!! ..... Kirkland stole the fake list which has many suspects ... more than 7 ...... how did he know ?????????????? it is strange right ???"

One more thing is why did he Kill Lenon? I mean when Lenon knew connections to RJ? Just because he wanted to avenge his brother? Common...He would have kidnapped Lenon and tortured him because Lenon knew connections to Red John.

It can't be Michael as I have explained http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/9984 

Also the only people I can imagine pulling off Red John voice are Partridge and Bob Kirkland. I can't imagine Haffner, Bertram, Stiles, Smith or McAllister with that voice. It would be funny them doing it, and if it is funny sounding it would get away from the seriousness of Red John and how he uses this voice for his Red John image that he takes very seriously

I also love the theories here, because I'm sure even Heller wouldn't have thought of such connections.

I think it is Bob Kirkland, what do you think? Please let me know 

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Do you guys remember episode 5x22 Red John's Rules?

Patrick went to his home town to solve a murder of his childhood memory that made him smile, Eileen Barlow, who was killed by Red John.

He visited Sean Barlow and had an interesting conversation with him. I found that conversation extremly odd.

If you remember, Barlow said ONLY a Barlow is a real psyhcic and that Jane's father was a fake psyhcic.

Later, when they start talking about Red John, he again points out that Red John has to be a REAL psyhcic. Like he knows who RJ is. Or more importantly, like he knows RJ is someone from the Barlow family.

That was very suspicios and I was always wondering why didn't Patrick try to dig into Sean a little more, to found out if he knows anything about Red John.

If you remember correctly, Sean Barlow is extremly similar to Gale Bertram, similar height, sits with his legs crossed and is bald.

I was thinking, maybe Bertram is a Barlow, who chaned his identity to get himself an important job in the CBI and is the real Red John. I mean, it would explain his connections to Patrick from the carnival years etc.

P.S. Anyone knows if the episode 7 would be available to watch or download Sunday or Monday? Because I've noticed CBS messed up something and is going to air last week's episode this Sunday and this week's next Sunday.

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Warning!! Spoiler!! Canadians were able to see the last episode 6: Fire and Brimstone, please do not read if you don't want spoilers!!

Three Questions after episode 6 I think are vital to the story:

1. What is Tyger Tyger interests in RJ? Obviously Bertram has been keen to be around when RJ is found, and now that its clear he is not RJ, why do they care?

2. Why show the ritual with Stiles the way they did 2 episodes before the RJ reveal? It was so over the top and hammed up that it seems the creators wanted you to make the connection with RJ, so why?

3. Why fake the deaths of all of the suspects and Jane at the end?



First off, I don't think its anyone left on the list, including Stiles. As mentioned above Stiles's scene with the ritual is too over the top, and clearly meant to remind you of when RJ put blood on Lisbon's face. Also, if you noticed Stiles was one of the ones who cautioned Jane not to shoot McCallister without first noticing that more than one suspect had the tattoo, and it doesn't make sense for RJ to care about Jane's well being in that way. Red John is obsessed with Jane yes, but wants to see him go darker, and become a monster, and that has been a constant throughout the show. Jane killing someone he has falsely believed was RJ, seems like exactly the thing RJ would smile about, not attempt to prevent.

I don't think it's Haffner either. He is too open about his hatred, and with his anger. His reaction to being asked to show up was too normal: offense, anger, curiosity, and then eventually realizing it would be of benefit to him to be there. I do however think its a bit odd that he isn't surprised to see Stiles? After all Visualize thinks he is elevating to another existence, aka running away to South America, so why does Haffner show no surprise at his attendance?

The Sheriff, and Reed don't jive as RJ either, neither seems to pay enough attention to Jane, or even rise to his baits for me to believe they would care like RJ does. Bertram did have a very long moment where he gave Jane a weird look when it came out that he had the tattoo as well, but these Tyger Tyger guys are working together, IF RJ is in fact one person, I just don't believe he is team player. 


That leaves Partridge, Kirkland, or unknown.

Partridge - If it's him he faked his own death, but why? The only thing that makes sense at this point is that Tyger Tyger was after him too. RJ knows he needs to get out of dodge, so he fakes his own death and takes on the RJ persona full-time. I am thinking his connection to visual will obviously be that Stiles is his father, or his mentor. I am leaning towards son though, it explains the cover-ups, and the resources RJ has tapped into in the past.


Kirkland - The more I think about it the more I think its him, well sorta. The facts that the guys who play Bob Kirkland and Stiles are both more recognizable actors in terms of careers than the rest, and Bob Kirkland was off his nut so it runs in the family. I think the only way this make sense, it's not Bob Kirkland that is RJ but his twin brother Michael . His twin brother wasn't talking about RJ promising change, Michael was actually taken in by Brett Stiles, and was at the visualize farm, and Michael himself became RJ. I think Michael has posed as Bob before, and that's how he met Patrick. I think Michael also killed that witness at the hospital, and has been able to play off being Bob to sometimes access NSA resources. I also think Michael's got something on visualize, and Stiles feels compelled to keep his secret quiet, but not sure why yet. I am also not sure how Tyger Tyger fits into this theory, other than its info we haven't gotten yet. But for some reason I think there is more to the twin Kirkland brothers than meets the eye.


Unknown - I am still thinking it could be an unknown. I know everybody thinks Heller has been honest, but I really don't. I don't fault him, I know fans like to think their passion is what fuels shows, but its actually money that decides what shows get on air. Promoting this, and getting people to tune in will be the factor in if Heller gets another gig. So to be fair, he should be less concerned with keeping us fans happy, and more concerned with getting us to watch. Ratings are his priority, so I think it could all still go pear shaped by the time of the RJ reveal. 


Let me know what you think!!??

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So Americ from Happy Cool posted a very good theory about Red John entitled "The Handshake Theory".  In this theory, he points out the handshake had to have been onscreen.  Otherwise, why even bring it up?  I believe this is true.  Sure he could shaken hands with some of the suspects off screen, but would that really be very good story telling?  I don't think so.

So Americ goes through the list systematically to see who Jane shook hands with onscreen.

Brett Stiles- did not shake hands
Brett Partridge-did not shake hands
Reede Smith- did not shake hands
Ray Haffner- they shook hands
Gale Bertram- they shook hands
Bob Kirkland- they shook hands
Sheriff Mcallister- they did not shake hands

So Bob is dead, and Gale doesn't fit the physical description.  Thus leaving Ray Haffner.

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Here's the rub.  We HAVE seen Jane and the Sheriff shake hands... just not in the traditional sense.
They're very first scene together, they play a long game of rock, paper, scissors and Jane keeps winning over and over again...  What do you do every time you play this game?  You shake your hand three times before revealing either rock, paper or scissors.   Thus, Sheriff and Jane "shook hands" the first time they met, just not with each others' hand.  :)  It's a very iconic scene from the first season.  Take a look at the first part of this video to watch it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w_Oc5wOeWw

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*TV Guide SPOILERS* - POST Red John


Spoilers from the TV Guide article via reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheMentalist/comments/1q03lx/tv_guide_has_spoilers_big_ones/

ALSO, actual scans from the TV Guide article:
http://imgur.com/VrARGRe

http://imgur.com/AuZHoQp

I love this show, but this is an odd direction for them... Please discuss.  Also, NONE of theresa's CBI team is Red John. Sorry

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Theory #10001 • By mikefit
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Hoping that this will be theory number 10,000 I would like to suggest the most likely of all scenarios. A common them is that noone thinks Reed Smith is a plausible RJ suspect mostly because he is too chunky. I predict with certainty that two things will happen in the next episode.1. The chubrock playing Reed Smith is asked by the producers to loose aproximately 819 LBS to be a more beleivable RJ.2. The CBI trades Gale Bertram to the Milwaukee Brewers for a roll of paper towels and a half empty bag of condoms, a trade that is viewed by most as equitable/fair

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This is no theory: I came back in a time machine to spoil this for you.


-Brett Partridge is Red John

-Reede Smith shoots Michael Kirkland

-Ray Haffner killed the copycats, Jared Renfrew and painted Lisbon's face after carving up Partridge

-Patrick kills Red John alone in a park

-The 3 suspects with the tattoo turned out to be undercover agents inserted into Tyger Tyger in a law-enforcement clean up

-Bret Stiles is Red John's father

-Patrick bombed his own house

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