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Trying to expose an original theory, which probably you haven't read yet.

Let's take the list of the seven suspects:

Dead ones:
-Brett Partridge 
-Ray Haffner
-Bob Kirkland
-Thomas McAllister (but according to the 6x08 Promo Trailer he is probably still alive, but of course for many reasons that you can found in other RJ-theories, he is not Red John)
-Bret Stiles

Alive ones:
-Gale Bertram (oh please, if he is Red John, I am Walter White)
-Reede Smith (of course, he is not Red John)

No fake deaths. It would be so boring and artless.
But, in the list of the dead ones, there is a man who could be dead and alive at the same time.

Bob Kirkland. In fact, according to Bruno Heller who said that the list of the suspects is correct, he is the only one which could still be Red John. 
And this is possibile if the one who has been killed is not Bob but Michael Kirkland, his twin brother. 
A simple man replacement with the help of the Blake Association and Reede Smith killed the wrong Kirkland, who probably agreed with his brother to sacrifice himself to help him (to remember how clever is Red John to manipulate people for his own purposes).


What do you think about this theory? Personally, paradoxically, I think it is not true, for the simple fact that I myself have other possible and interesting theories like this, as many of you. 

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red herring

noun

noun: red herring; plural noun: red herrings

1.

a dried smoked herring, which is turned red by the smoke.




synonyms:


bluff,
blind,
ruse,
feint,
deception,
subterfuge,
hoax,
trick,
ploy,
device,
wile,
sham,
pretence,
artifice,
cover,
smokescreen,
distraction,
expedient,
contrivance,
machination;
More
informaldodge,
put-on,
put-up job

"it's more of a red herring than a legitimate plot
element"




2.

a clue or piece of information which is or is intended to
be misleading or distracting.


Indulge me for a few minutes please. – Speculation and a lot
of thinking out loud.


If the actor playing red John himself thought HE (the role he
played) was a red herring, that tells us a lot actually. It means the role he
played was full of stories, hints, clues, background details and the like. If
he was simply a ‘bland’ character; without background or any information surrounding
him – he couldn’t be a legitimate red herring? (i.e. CBI Ron), as there would be no
obvious questions to ask of the character. We the audience decided for example CBI Ron was ‘creepy’ and ‘always
there’. Yes, that is technically a red herring, but not enough of one to leave
us guessing, talking, questioning loopholes in his story/timelines etc.



That means he has to have been a character with ‘meat’ – a character
that left more questions than answers in terms of storyline. Logical =   Kirkland.
(Haffner also qualifies to an extent)



Kirkland is dead the people say? Yeah right – so is Thomas
Macallister, but we see him jumping through a window.

Cordero, who we now know
is a TT foot soldier, dealt with Kirklands forensic report.
I saw Smith shoot 7
times, but the report says 6 shots. Reed Smith was the biggest patsy in TT – he
thought he had killed Kirkland, but all he had done was provide RJ with his
escape plan.



Carson Springs/City is going to play a huge role in this
somewhere. (My thinking out loud starts)

Perhaps social services/protective custody is where PJ and
RJ actually FIRST met, not the carnival as most speculate.  Jane spent time there, he admitted it to
Lisben when he called the number of Child Protective services.

Tragic backgrounds, abusive fathers – Kirkland (or whatever
his name was back then and Jane). Young kids stuck in the ‘system’. Perhaps
Jane teased/fooled/scammed/taunted Kirkland (or his brother – that’s if there
IS a twin – I’m doubting that now...but there could well have been one who died
earlier in life). There could also be a sister for all we know.
Kirkland’s
stories to Lisben and Jane about ‘moving’ , growing up in ‘America’, ‘mom’s
suicide’ etc contained SOME truths, but a lot of untruths as well – part of the
game.


After their time in protective custody:

RJ moves on to Vizualise where Brett Stiles becomes the
father he never had. (But Stiles is ALSO an abusive father to an extent –
brainwashing etc)


Patrick Jane goes back to his father, leaves the carnival
and moves up the world of psychic scamming.


Years later – RJ sees PJ on television, recognises him, and
once more PJ is taunting him (as happened many years back) and its game on.

 

However – RJ, after taking Patricks family away yearns for a
true friend, someone who suffered with him and knows pain/abandonment and abuse
– Patrick. That is when he starts reaching out, yet NEVER losing his
competitive edge or his slight ‘jealousy’ of Jane.  A very symbiotic relationship.
Which is why I
believe RJ dying is going to be sad on some level, however much of a sociopath
he is.



Those who have seen the final episode make reference to the brilliant
performance by the actor who plays ‘RJ’. Now I might be biased, but amongst those
we have left as viable RJ suspects – there are only 2 who could successfully
add the necessary emotional ‘flesh’ needed to pull of the ‘RJ’ character as his
true self.

Malcolm MacDowell and Kevin Corrigan (character actors of
the highest calibre).


Its’ not MacDowell (and if it was, he wouldn’t have said he
is ‘honoured’ to become a part of pop culture – because MacDowell and his role
in ‘Clockwork Orange’ did that already – many years back)



Without repeating all my theories as to why Kirkland is RJ
(Bob/Michael – either or – or neither as Bob’s story was nothing more than one
huge red herring for Jane’s benefit); I’m sticking with Kirkland. (or whatever
his name was before he became Kirkland........the minute he says this – Jane will
know who he is – the kid he knew while they were in protective custody)
Perhaps Stiles and Haffner will still have a role to play.
MacAllister we know does – but as a RJ foot soldier still. 
Oh, and everything Jane has said since the Episode 1 of this
season, has been for the benefit of the listening device Lisben has planted on
her. RJ hasn’t missed a word of what has been discussed. Jane has known this for ages though, so 99% of what has been
revealed and said by Jane, has been purely for RJ’s benefit, and to pull him in
to Jane’s ‘end game’.

Kirkland did ask Lisben when they had coffee in series 5, if
Jane tells her ‘everything’ about RJ – and she answers honestly – YES (she can’t
lie.....). Kirkland decided right then to risk bugging her.


So the ‘I’m letting go’ whilst in the lift – that was Jane
cueing ’RJ’ for the final showdown.

 


Hoping for an EPIC Baker vs Corrigan. Jane vs RJ scene. (I’m
glad I refused to believe a senior citizen was RJ)
And if it isn’t Kirkland, I hope it’s Partridge. Simply
because after all the grief Partridge and Kirkland ‘fans’ have received  round here, I would like one of the ‘UNDEAD’
to receive the RJ glory.

 

 

 





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Hi Guys,
this is so much fun especially when you have a big report to do so you think ok I can not do this while red john is still unknown ;)

I remember that Bosco when on the death bed told Jane something then died, then when I saw the promo I recognized his voice, It could be (I still think Bosco is a good guy) that Bosco faked his death to help catching RJ, and then Jane and Bosco will meet in the church and Bosco says : game over, I won, I told you it is Bertram, but Jane disagrees.
I still think it is micheal Kirkland any way.

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In 6x08 promo Jane was chasing a man very similar to Macallister, and meet someone in church whose sound is very similar to Bob\Michael Kirkland, so here is my theory about what is going on there.
I think Macallister survived from the blast, he must be because he stands against the wall, and everyone in this side survived.Jane Bertram Smith survived the blast very healtly, so he couldnt be dead. He and Stiles\Haffner escaped.No one dead.
Macallister knows Bertam'll go after him as he went after Reede Smith which i dont understand why. So he left the flashdisc in the storage he knew the team will find it.
While Bertam came to the storage the woman called him ''Thomas'' and storage was full of wines (Napa Walley).
He gave a message to PJ(by the flashdisc)  to meet him in the church, and tell him something important.
Rj has an eye on Patrick all the time, and he found out they're gonna meet. And try to stop Macallister,it was RJ whom was chasing Macallister. And killed him before he meet PJ, and go there by himself because there is no one left in that list and PJ announced Bertam already to the public. So RJ thinks he won.
But PJ has a different plan as always and has been playing his own game since the beginning and waits for the moment he reveals himself holding the trophy..
It could be anybody dead in the list..Each one of them has a strong stories\ theories behind. But i'im going with the Kirkland because the sound of RJ is very similar to Kirklands.
But I'll be more happy if Ray Haffner is RJ. He is the one whom I think RJ uis ntil this time..




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A Fan-Fic of "Red John."

Patrick Jane confronts Gale Bertram as being Red John.  He shoots him in front of the CBI team.

A funeral is held for Gale Bertram.  The CBI is regaled for killing Red John.  A shadowy figure comes to Bertram's funeral.  He is bald. 

The FBI suspects that the funeral is a show funeral. Jane has shot Bertram in error.  Jane has shot Bertram just to serve his blood lust for killing Red John.  Jane is off the rails.  Bertram is not Red John.  They have proof.  They are ready to convict Jane of killing the innocent Bertram. 

They are ready to serve Jane with the crime of murdering Gale Bertram when the CBI team suddenly produce Bertram in handcuffs.  The shadowy Bald man attending Bertram's funeral suddenly sprints away from the grave.  Jane pursues him through the graveyard.

It turns out it was not Bertram's grave they were digging.  They were digging up Bob Kirkland's grave.  The man inside Bob Kirkland's grave is indeed Bob Kirkland, but he has been dead for several years!

The shadowy man Jane pursued is Michael Kirkland, Robert Kirkland's brother, who has been posing as Bob Kirkland since his brother's death.

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Hi everyone,

please see below link to read a preview from spoilertv. the writer gives a few teasers which do not tell much but he also included a poll at the end covering all the legit suspects from the LIS7. However, maybe it's just a coincidence or he's trying to fuck our minds but there's a third option to what I'm going to reveal here which maybe he's trying to give us a message.

The sentence goes before the poll: *I'm gonna include all the original suspects, just to cover all bases.
JUST TO COVER ALL BASES.

Smith goes before picking the coffee: Are you always this thorough? Kirkland retorts: I like to COVER ALL MY BASES. Kinky right???

http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/11/the-mentalist-episode-608-red-john_171.html

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I'm sorry if this has already been posted several times (I didn't find any, though) but I'm sure you guys and gurls noticed the person walking past the interrogation room (where Jane, Lisbon and Smith were in) who was whistling.

What was that? Why would the writers pull a random whistling (as it's kinda been a red herring thorough this season because so many of the suspects have been doing it) one episode before the final big reveal? What melody was the person whistling? Why they made it so obvious you couldn't
undetect it? Why Smith suddenly got so scared and asked if they are really able to keep him safe, when he saw (and/or heard) the whistlerer? Why did the person walk like Red John did in the finale of season 2 (very slowly and calmly)? Why the shoes he was wearing sounded just like Red John's boots in the finale of season 2 when they hit the floor?

Really, what was that? I'm throwing Kirkland's picture in just because the person seemed to have sleek black hair, even though the picture wasn't clear.

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