Not a theory, I just wanted to make this clear. I'm not accusing him, just pointing out one thing.

This is for everybody who thinks Brett Partridge doesn't have a good posture. According to Rosalind's description.Red John  is "not muscular, but not soft either."
Jack Plotnick some years ago... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/TAcnBF4_klI/AAAAAAABpbo/QgAShi3Dv7E/s1600/JackPlotnick07.jpg  
Well...

I'm here to say it's quite obvious RJ is Brett Partridge and the show will be plain shite if it's not him.

I mean, it's OBVIOUS, see? The guy got killed, sank in blood and was taken out from the house in a plastic bag, it's obvious he's alive and obviously he's red john.

Jane doesn't think it's him but that's because he's so obviously more intelligent than Jane.

Jack Plotnick said his role as Brett was finished, that's an obvious proof he's RJ. It's soooooooo obvious that Partridge had a grandma who knew jane's father and her cousin died because of a rotten tomato so he became obsessed with Red color.

And there's a partdrige pidgeon, c'mon guys, what could be more obvious about RJ identity than the existance of a Partridge Pidgeon?


As you see, every single logical contradiction can be overcome by stating the opposite conclussion is "obvious". And that's just stupid, plain, linear teenager thinking.

Seriously, I don't have anything about Partdrige being red John, i just think it wouldn't be original, and it would be a classical outcome already done WITH PANZER. However, while i don't have anything against the character himself, I just wish it isn't him because i wanna see all you salughterers of Logic bite the dust.

OK people, I know that we all just wanna know who RJ is... and we have to wait too long for the answer.
However, while we wait we can predict.
My prediction is Brett Partridge, and this is why.

There was never any conformation that he died, but that's what the audience at home thinks.
"Oh, he's dead, he's out of the picture.. it's Bertram"
That's my prediction.. Press plausible if you think it will work..
Actually press plausible anyway. :)
THANKS!!!!!!

There are 7 suspects. Red John got the list because Lisbon is bugged during season 5, and he made the video right after Jane tells Lisbon the 7 names in the finale (6 names are said off-screen). Lorelei Martins is still alive so Red John can make the CD straight away when he hears. Patrick realises Lisbon is bugged very early on in season 6 and uses it against Red John. This is also why Red John doesn't kill Lisbon.

- Red John was in prison. He can't have a job in law enforcement unless he changed his name.
- Red John has a soft voice, is under 6 ft

Only 1 person fits these very specific criteria : Brett Partridge

- Red John was at West Huron when he was first bugged- he doesn't move all day.
- Red John kills Brett Partridge, his other alias
- Red John has pigeons in his home.
- Woman from Visualise has rings like Red John, wearing Partridge's watch, and feeding pigeons

That all points to the same guy: Brett Partridge

- Red John overhears Sophie Miller's notes, when Jane plays them to Lisbon
- Everyone in Tyger Tyger suddenly starts whistling, Haffner starts whistling and Stiles even whistles
- Who isn't in Tyger Tyger? Robert Kirkland. Does he whistle? No.
- Safe to assume Red John is the leader of Tyger Tyger and has a strong link to Visualise

That all points to: Brett Partridge

- Who looks nervous in Red John's Rules when he knows nothing of the list or Jane's exploits?
- Who hints that "Red John has been laying low for years" and thus implies he didn't kill Lorelei Martins?

This guy: Brett Partridge

- Who could you use as a Red John, that's going to result in the highest DVD sales?
- Whose scenes do you see little Easter Eggs, implying he's Red John?
- Who is Red John?

Brett Partridge

What's with the crazy, long theories?

Brett Partridge is Roy Tagliaferro. Brett Partridge is Red John. Do we really need to make theories with our own plotholes to steer it to being someone else?

If someone wants to say "Brett Partridge is dead," that's cool. But he's still Red John. Red John isn't dead, he's just killed his another alias. So I don't get how Brett Partridge *isn't* Red John. If you could please tell me 1 good reason that completely wipes out Partridge, I'll be happy to believe you.

Hey I have a question not really a theory did anyone noticed that the cabin bob took Patrick too was covered up like it was hiding a giant red smiley face he said it was his brother's maybe that's why bob thought red john killed his brother there is a smiley face painted on the outside but I don't know any ideas.

I have noticed that everyone is focusing on theories as to how RJ knew the list before Patrick, so I thought that I would give it a shot. There are some really great theories out there but most of them are very complicated so I thought I would try an easy route to the same destination. I just hope that I can explain it as easily as I came up with this theory. Okay, here it goes....

Six of the suspects have only one degree of seperation from RJ. In other words, all 6 are directly connected to RJ in some way. Let me explain. RJ was a member of Visualize and he knows that Patrick knew this so Stiles was an easy guess. Haffner was a long time member and both PJ and RJ knew that so he goes on the list. Members of Tiger are some way connected to RJ so RJ assumed Patrick pick the ones that he had worked with in the past which would add Smith and McAllister to the list along with Bertram but it's been no secret that Bertram has been a suspect for some time so of course he would be on the list. Bob Kirkland's connection to RJ was his brother and he has been on a psychopathic search for Rj for years, killing no telling how many along the way. RJ had to have known this too. Since we don't know Partridges connection to RJ I can't connect him to him, but I don't really need to since I believe he is RJ.

So what I'm basically saying is that Red John gave Patrick every person that he was directly connected to in some way and Patrick came up with the list the same way. I also think that Patrick began a long con to catch RJ back on Season 5's finale when he was burning stuff in a trash. In other words, he already knew who RJ was before the list ever came into play.