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Brett Partridge

Brett Partridge
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In the hospital right after telling Patrick that Partridge said 'tyger, tyger' before 'dying'....she goes on to say, isn't that what RJ said to you??????  When did Patrick tell Lisbon.....in 2:23, RJ kills the students and recites the poem to Patrick, however when later talking with Lisbon about it, he specifically says RJ said nothing.  He keeps this bit of information secret.....to himself.

Did  I miss a subsequent episode when he told Lisbon???  I don't rememmber him ever telling anyone about the signfiicance of that poem, or tyger, tyger.   How could Lisbon know this information......did she just slip...is she involved???

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TIGER, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?


This poem was written by William Blake which PJ mentions in one of the episodes. 
William Blake was also an artist who did relief etchings, illustrations and paintings. One of his works is entitled, “A Brace of Partridge,” . And behold!! We have Brett Partridge!! You might wonder why he might be the suspect even though he was killed in the first episode. But if you think about it, Lisbon was standing in front of a window before she was pulled. It either had to be someone outside the window or someone on the ground. I think Brett Partridge just acted as though he was dying but was originally planning to abduct Lisbon. The only thing bothering me is what he did with the body so as to lead the police to identify him as Brett Partridge

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always thought that Brett was RJ and now i'm even more convinced.
 My arguments:
 1. He's the weirdo who appears in most RJ episodes
 2. He seems to dislike Jane who dislikes him back, and admire RJ's work somehow
 3. The voice in the early reasons AND the one on the first episode "Lisbon can't come to the phone right now" is very very very similar to his
 4. Lisbon was mysteriously sent to his place. She found him "nearly dying" or did she think. He recited the Tiger Tiger lines, He was behind her when he has been attacked. He could have pretended to be dying and stand up and attack her.
 5. RJ usually kills the people he captures, if he left her alive, it's for a particular reason. Maybe because he wanted her to say something that Jane and the other people investigating couldn't have guessed themselves: he needed her to say that she saw Brett Dying. Why is that ? Because this way, we won't need to check his face, if it's really him taken to the morgue. Because, they didn't show us the face of the dead man, did they ? On the 6x06, when Lisbon's at the hospital, you can see a nurse coming in and calling her Mrs Lee. I think it was a clue pointing out the fact that mistakes can be made ! Remember when Lorelei was taken to jail, when Jane and Teresa came for her, there was another person at her place. That's when RJ's friends could be useful, to mislead us into thinking that Brett is dead.
 6. On the episode of his last appearance of season 5, it was a RJ crime scene and Brett was there AGAIN but with another forensics man (which was new. I remember thinking, "who's that ? Why is he shown?"). I remember how Lisbon (or Jane, I don't remember) deduced throughout the episode that RJ wasn't alone on the crime, and might have gotten some help from someone else. Isnt't convenient to erase every proof or finger prints when you work for forensics and you're the first person on the crime scene !
 7. And finally ... The description of Sophie Miller at the end of 6x02, When she said the words "fearful" or "scared" it clicked in my head. Remember in 6x01, Brett feared Jane. He tended to defy him during seasons, BUT he still fears him ! You know, their relationship is weird. He admires Jane but still feels threatened by him. Killing him in the first episode of the season is a great way of forgetting him but it's too easy ...

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Ok so we "know" it is not the chap I accused but still I had to choose someone o_O

So not much a theory but "food for thought"

Last season finale, RJs call to PJ:
"I'm going to start killing again, often! Until you catch me or I catch you."

So this does not make much sense to me. 

After the revelation of the handshake and the list, RJ decides to start killing again.
WHY? After a period of laying low, so to speak, this pushes him to the forefront. The option of getting caught is made more possible with the escalation of kills. Clearly handing himself in is not allowed. RJ could just have kept up with the kills but not personal to PJ and thus off the radar. Yet this handshake/list revelation has meant that PJ must be the focus of the escalation.

So RJ has had PJ tied to a chair and does not kill him  - just rambles out a poem. WHY?

RJ has shown that he has resources, financial and associates. He was able to take out the CBI with the use of the secretary, then kill the secretary (either him or a proxy did the deed) as well as the witness burnt inside the cell. So 3 people killed within the CBI by the will of RJ. Which shows that in general location is not a hindrance when RJ wants to kill a person. PJ spends his time dozing on the sofa in the office or in his padlocked warehouse type apartment. Either should be no effort if PJ was to be killed. 

Why is PJ not dead yet? He insulted RJ and his wife/kid was killed. The other guy insulted RJ and he was killed. RJ has had opportunity aplenty. 

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So: RJ could catch PJ anytime - which leaves PJ catching RJ (which I think is the point of the game).


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the note that red john left that said dinner's in the oven had 3 different spelt e's is this a clue?

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First, I think most people would agree Gail Bertrum is not Rj, he is just a well placed pawn in Rj's scheme to stay a step ahead of Patrick. When Bertrum arrives at the crime scene towards the beginning of episode 2x6, he calls for officer Sheridan. Sheridan looks jus like the Rj follower who came in and killed Bosco's secretary in one of the previous seasons. Bertram asks how Lisbon is doing and if he ID the second body. When Sheridan says ya we got Bret Partridge, Bertrums reaction is key and raises suspicion. He stops and looks shocked as if he wants to ask the officer are you sure it's Partridge like he knows that can't be possible seeing how I'm sure he knows Partridge is Rj because he works for him. But the reaction is key GO BACK and watch that scene again and pay attention to Bertrum. He then claims to have slightly known Partridge. But if he slightly knew him he wouldn't have a reaction like he did. Very suspicious in my opinion. I think Bret Partridge will be back. The first responders on scene likely work for Rj like Sheridan mite and falsely confirmed Partridge being DOA. Besides the killer in red dragon faked his death and came back later in the movie. Just a theory

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After watching tonight's episode, I have some thoughts I'd like to share with you all. Of course, I do not know for sure who Red John is, but I have two suspects remaining in my mind. I have eliminated all others. First, let's start with Brett Partridge, who is supposedly dead.. In the episode tonight, I did not see sufficient evidence to confirm that. Yes, his "body" was on a stretcher in the background, but there was no "up close" confirmation or a burial scene. I still think the body could have been switched or Partridge took a drug and could wake up some time later, and accomplices could sneak him out of wherever his body was taken. Also, two things I remembered from an early clip of Partridge (season 1 or 2 I believe) He is wearing an "ear phone" which explains how he could talk to Jane and still have two hands free for the "knife" and wiping the blood off. (Of course, any of the suspects could have an earphone, so this is not sufficient evidence to confirm my theory that Partridge could still be alive.)

In this same clip of Partridge, he talks about Red John's "trusty stun gun." I couldn't help but notice how in the episode tonight they mentioned how Lisbon was taken down by a taser. How would Partridge know about Red John's trusty stun gun unless he was him? (Or was a disciple of Red John's.)

I do not know if Partridge's death was real or an elaborate ruse, but I do know this: If Brett Partridge is not Red John, Raymond Haffner is. After examining all evidence and listening to Rosalind Harker's and Sophie Miller's descriptions, he is the only possible suspect remaining in my mind (if Partridge is really dead.)

What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments, and thanks for reading.

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