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S06E06

When Ray leaves his car for the coffeemeeting with Teresa, making an interesting call about a woman that has to be shut down, it turns out to be a Mercedes whitout a licenseplate. He appears untracable. 

Near the end of the episode, Teresa is lifting but first time a fast car drives trough without even slowing down. It's also the same type of Mercedes, this time with licenseplate (one cannot really read it). Maybe there's a passenger, but that's also not very clear. If Haffner is in the car, would he have recognised Lisbon - and if so, why didn't he stop?

Another issue: since the spy-woman that was to bug the CBI knew her killer had a tattoo on his shoulder, it seems that she must have had sexual intercourse at least once with her Tyger. Bertram might have been attractive to her, maybe McAllister but definetely not Smith.

Last question: what did Partrigde knew so he had to die? I don't see it, very unclear stuff.

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Okay so after the last episode I'm sure that it's not the three remaining suspects because it's too easy. I think Red John is more clever to be in the tyger tyger group. This group might be connected to him, might be his minions but he is above them and I think he wouldn't be stupid enough to have the same tattoo as all of them.
They might also be looking for RJ. Not sure about that but they might.

Ray fits the descriptions that we have of RJ, he has the right age and he is creepy. there is this vibe coming of him. When Teresa accusses him of being RJ he seems angry and offended but wouldn't that be a good reaction rather than to play it cool.
He has RJ' weird walk. He didn't really hesitate to take of his shirt which shows a bit of confidence that can be seen as either good or bad.
He likes Teresa and that could be why she is still alive. There is just something about him. I can't quite describe it but I like him for the part. Plus I hope it's him.

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The three remaining suspects are apparently Smith, Bertram and McCallister. This is why it is NOT one of these three.

Smith- Clearly doesn't match Rosalind and the psychiatrists description. He also appears sloppish, afraid and often unsure of himself. Red John would definitely NOT be him. When he was asked to show his arm to reveal his tattoo, he looked scared. He also tried pulling out his gun clumsily, which Red John would never do. Saying he is afraid of heights SO OPENLY is a dead giveaway he is NOT RJ.

Bertram- Bertram is always "reporting" to someone on the phone. He seems overly-curious about Red John as well.

McCalliser- explicitly tells Jane "I am not red John"- something RJ would NEVER EVER EVER DO. Also appears much older than the desc of RJ.

The producers would naturally want to shove us off a little... So that's why they're putting the focus on these 3. Back in episode 2, the same 3 met at Bertram's office to discuss matters. None of them are really Red John.

Based on the descriptions of RJ in the past, I would say it is most certainly Ray. He is very clever and resourceful, could have removed the tattoo if RJ was truly the one who killed Kira Tinsley OR one of those three killed Kira Tinsley because they wanted to bug CBI and knew Jane was on his way there. PS*** The murder of Tinsley was also sloppy and hurried, with no trademark SMILEY RJ normally leaves behind....

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Aight guys my theory:
We've waited all almost 6 Years to this moment, come on heller is for sure doing a great thing to entertain us so stop saying partridge is not dead or something like this, this would be a MISERABLE ending.

Let's look closer to the details.

I also recognized the coffee thing. Ray got black coffee when he met Teresa and in this scene you have to look closer at Teresa. When the coffee was served she takes a look to the bar or to some people out there. I'm sure the coffee thing is very important here but i can't tell what exactly.

I'm also almost a 100% sure that RJ has NOTHING to do with the tyger tyger group which has the three dots and the tyger tyger password, except that he knows them. Maybe RJ just want's to fool Patrick here and want's to lead him to a false trace which would explain the scene when RJ saved Jane from the kids and ended his act with the poem tyger tyger.

Michael Kirkland will show up for sure. The tyger tyger group will be excluded from the suspects. (McAllister, Smith and Bertram). So there are 2 possibilities here: Ray Heffner or Bret Stiles.

I assume it is Ray and i'm as well very sure that this "ecuadorian connection" from Stiles will play a role here.

Cant look forward to the next episode. RJ is not so important anymore. The tyger tyger group will keep the story entertaining, even if RJ is revealed.



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Aight guys my theory:
We've waited all almost 6 Years to this moment, come on heller is for sure doing a great thing to entertain us so stop saying partridge is not dead or something like this, this would be a MISERABLE ending.

Let's look closer to the details.

I also recognized the coffee thing. Ray got black coffee when he met Teresa and in this scene you have to look closer at Teresa. When the coffee was served she takes a look to the bar or to some people out there. I'm sure the coffee thing is very important here but i can't tell what exactly.

I'm also almost a 100% sure that RJ has NOTHING to do with the tyger tyger group which has the three dots and the tyger tyger password, except that he knows them. Maybe RJ just want's to fool Patrick here and want's to lead him to a false trace which would explain the scene when RJ saved Jane from the kids and ended his act with the poem tyger tyger.

Michael Kirkland will show up for sure. The tyger tyger group will be excluded from the suspects. (McAllister, Smith and Bertram). So there are 2 possibilities here: Ray Heffner or Bret Stiles.

I assume it is Ray and i'm as well very sure that this "ecuadorian connection" from Stiles will play a role here.

Cant look forward to the next episode. RJ is not so important anymore. The tyger tyger group will keep the story entertaining, even if RJ is revealed.



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Red John has been spying on the team from the first season, why would he suddenly feel the need to bug the office for information? There's no concrete data to support the idea that it was Red John who tried to bug the office and killed Kira, nothing but Jane's hunch, who's been unaware of the existence of the tyger organization. What if it was the tygers who tried to bug the office and Patrick got it all wrong? After all Bertram and Smith were the ones who were desperate to know what Patrick has been doing lately. Red John had no reason to bug the office at this point. The next episode is called the great red dragon, I assume Patrick's gonna learn about the tygers, figure out it was one of them who killed Kira and tried to bug the office. And from there he'll figure out who the real Red John is, Haffner.

Even if it was Red John who killed Kira, it's still possible he set a trap to trick Patrick into believing it's one of the tygers who are on the list. Give the guy some credit, Red Jon is not that stupid to leave a witness half-dead.

I'm extremely angry and disappointed right now. Neither one of these supposedly three remaining suspects deserve to be Red John. Reede Smith?! seriously?!

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Do you guys remember at the very beggining what rj victims had in common? The victims before janes family
He killed the families of the heads of secret societys , so i believe red john is a guy from tyger tyger fighting for the superiority of his secret organization. Either that or thats the reason for mcalister reed and bertram to be after red john , maybe one of his victims were tyger tyger heads
And vizualize is the one who rised because of rj , which would be much cooler after all that bloody rituals bret stiles did , in that case i would believe RJ Iis haffner , the security man for vizualize
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