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Ray Haffner

Ray Haffner
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Middle aged, in good health, well spoken, good posture, self possessed, excellent whistler, pleasent self presentation, deceptive and dark, real phobia.

So aren't Bertram, Stiles and the sheriff too old to fit the description "middle aged"? Also Stiles doesn't seem to fit the description "in good health" and "good posture".

The Sheriffs reaction to Jane leaving the room in 6x02 was "what the hell was that all about" - I wouldn't call that "well spoken".

Important note is that Sophie millers says that Red John's phobia is real wether it's acrophobia or some other phobia.

In 6x05 Haffner freaks out when he sees a spider and says he hates spiders (arachnophobia).

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Okay, even if the man who killed the private investigator, it must be someone from the list. At the scene she answers the door, we can see the killer's shadow and we can see he has hair so we can eliminate Brett and Gale. When Cho asked, she said the man who she was working for was from visualize so my guess is Haffner. I'm not saying he's RJ, I still think this is a fake list. I think PJ is working alone, he can't trust anyone

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I'm not sure who Red John is, but I do know one thing: trying to make predictions about his identity based on IMDB cast lists for upcoming episodes is basically pointless.

Fans are starting to suspect that Red John has to be either Smith or Bertram, because these are the only two characters who appear in the IMDB casting lists available online.

That is ridiculous, and here's why.

Just look at the cast list for 'Fire and Brimstone', the episode that's due to air this coming Sunday (November 3). There are only four characters currently listed online; one is Bertram, and the other three are gymnasts. Yet we know from television adverts that all the remaining Red John suspects will appear in the episode, as will Jane and Lisbon.

Based on the previews we've all seen for 'Fire and Brimstone', it's obvious that not everyone who appears in the episode is currently identified on the IMDB cast list. 

Therefore, any clear-thinking Mentalist fan should know it's silly to base their predictions about Red John on cast lists for future episodes. Is it fun to guess? Absolutely. But these IMDB cast lists mean almost nothing at the present time. 

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Hey guys, i wont to share my "Big Bang Theory" with you. This is a copied post from the german version of this website. I just used the translator, because i needed to long to translate it by miseld. Also my english ist not that good. I hope you could follow my theory. Have fun...

I will summarize again :
We have 7 suspects in which Bruno Heller has confirmed that one of them is definitely Red John . Patridge and Kirkland have already been deleted. We have to note that Red John has a good appearance, a " fit " body has and has a good network to the CBI . I dare even the thesis that there is no way to Haffner over!

My arguments are as follows:
Stiles,
Bertram , Smith and McAllister not conform to the description of the
therapist , whose recordings ( acrophobia , handsome , middle age) ,
Jane found . We still know that he has an undeniable success with women . For Haffner , however , applies to everything we have heard so far . I have now again looked at the episode "The Red Barn " from Season 5th Here it comes , that is found on a farm from the 80s Visualize the RJ Smiley . Jane finds out that the symbol was placed in the 80s by a young Visualize workers there . Known, Haffner belongs to Stiles ...

Haffner
is addressed in the wake of Lisbon , and he says that he was already in
Visualize but makes the question whether he has worked on the farm. As a result Haffner Lisbon also offers a new job at a private security agency , which he wants to start using Visualize . I assume that Red John Haffner , and the financial resources of Stiles gets provided. Stiles has known, so a wire to Red John .

Furthermore, Red John must indeed have good contacts in the CBI . As a relatively early the lady has been poisoned in the course of the CBI , you smiled before. I hardly think that all volunteers of Red John know each other and was killed by "real" . Haffner can circulate freely there , yes.

We
also know that Haffner has a weakness for Lisbon , which would also
explain that Lisbon has been spared the discovery of the dead Patridge
of Red John .

My guess therefore :
Haffner RJ with Support of style. In the next episode everything is well informed :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z4oO__5Mas

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However, I would hope that none of the suspects is Red John and Jane has noticed over the list that he has the wrong . This calls together and with the explosion , which you can see in the promo preview , death feigning . However, Bruno Heller would have lied for the interviews , which I unfortunately did not go out.

My favorite would be this , in descending order :
Walter Mashburn ( the rich Lover of Lisbon from previous season )
Michael Kirkland ( the -lost brother of Bob )
Jane's brother


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Haffner is Red 7ohn... And he continues the legacy from Brett Styles which was earlier Red 7ohn... He even 7oined Visualize... Bret styles said to Patrick: I know who he is.. Ill go away for a bit. Haffner is R7 legacy.

Like the mask of zorro movie ;p

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Hi, I just want to share some thoughts on the show and the Red John case.
First I must say that I thought that Red John was Raymond Haffner since Red Barn or at least he was my main suspect, followed by Bertram. Then when the list was reveled i got more confident that was one of the two. This last season started and except from Kirkland, who i didn't think was RJ but just some guy in search of revenge because of a lost lover to RJ (tangent to the truth xD), in each episode i started to think of the other suspects as really possibilities to be RJ. This until last episode, which made me think that Haffner is not RJ. 

I am a fan of this theory that the RJ age range reveled in Red Barn is right (http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/5509) and because of it, Red John can only be Kirkland, Partrigde, Haffner or Bertram. Two of them we are told that are dead, that only leaves Bertram and Haffner. I truly cannot believe that some old guy is Red John because we saw Red John killing and making some apperences already and if in the end they say to us that RJ is someone that I know that cannot possibly be able to do some things we know RJ made, that is just bad writting, what i don't want that.

What i also don't get is why we are told that Lisbon actress was surprised with Red John identity. Because that makes no sense, unless Red John is someone that "died" in previews episodes or someone not on the list. Because if is one of the last 5, then there is no way am going to be surprised with the identity (the story behind it is another thing).

About Haffner, all the last comments made by writers and actors made me think is not him and also these things:
- Was played by Jane and the team at least once;
- Tried to predict Jane future;
- Fear of spiders (funny but was given too much attention on the show to be RJ fear);
- Told Van Pelt and Lisbon to go away from Jane (he does know something that we don't but seems that doesn't know that much);
- Got his career destroyed by Jane and left CBI because of it. Bertram said something like: we will find another thing for you;
- Was an ass to the team in the last episode calling them kids and stuff. 

What makes me think it's him:
- Right age and looks;
- Visualize member;
- Friend with Bret Stiles;
- Computer knowledge and others necessary to the RJ role;
- All the talks with Lisbon;
- Has many friends in the police force;
- The fact that he seems to let more stuff slip about him when he is not near Jane.

About Bertram, he does not have the looks and seems to me that he has a lot to lose if he is RJ because of his position of power in the CBI and politcs. Something is off about him related to the episode Strawberries and Cream. Also he seems to belong to the Tiger Tiger group. He is maybe their leader.

Must certanly i am forgetting stuff related to these suspects. Please share some thoughs about this. It will make my day ;)

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The secret is out, Red John revealed!!!

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