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Merhabalar,

Red John'un olduğu bölümleri tekrar izlemek istedim. Doğal olarak da sezon finallerini de izlemiş oldum. İki olay dikkatimi fazlasıyla çekti. İlk olarak Brett Partridge genel olarak Red John olaylarında ortaya çıkıyor. Yalnız şöyle bir durum var: Partridge, sahte Red John olaylarında kendini gösteriyor. Burası bana çok ama çok ilginç geldi. 1x01 de, 2x23 de ve bir sahte Red John bölümü daha vardı ona bakmadım henüz. Hep sahte Red John olaylarında görüyoruz Brett Partridge'yi. Ve 2x23'ün sonunda dediğini hatırlayın kızı öldürürken: "Hoş görmediğim bir şey varsa bu, işimin ucuz taklitleridir." Acaba Red John, Partridge mi ki, sahte olaylarda geliyor, ipucu toplayarak yapanı bulmaya çalışıyor. Bu yönden de düşündüm. Gerek Partridge'nin davranışları, konuşması, duruşu, bakışı filan; kafamda bir Red John olma ihtimali yaratıyor hatta kesin olarak o diyebilirdim. Eğer şimdi ki söyleyeceğim o ayrıntıyı görmemiş olsaydım.

Arkadaşlar buraya çok dikkat. 2x23'de 39:15 ile 39:22 arasında Red Johh'un yürüyüşüne çok ama çok dikkat edin lütfen. Gördünüz değil mi yürüyüş şeklini? Ayağını filan nasıl hareket ettirdiğini. Şimdi ise 6x02'de 6:10 ile 6x18 arasına dikkat edin. Ray Haffner'in yürüyüşü!

Eğer gerçekten dikkatlice izlerseniz. Ray Haffner ve Red John'un yürüyüşünün aynı olduğunu anlayacaksınız. Ben Red John'un, Ray Haffner olduğunu düşünüyorum artık. Şu özellikleri de es geçmemek lazım.

1.80'den biraz daha kısa.
Kaslı değil, ama yumuşak da değil.
Kısa, düz saçlar.
Nazik bir ses.
Sert, güçlü eller.

English

Hi all,
Sections that Red John wanted to watch it again . Naturally, I've watched the finals of the season . More than two events attracted my attention . First, Brett Partridge in general cases turns out to Red John . Solo have a situation like Partridge , shows itself in cases of fake Red John . This is a very, very interesting for me . In 1x01 , 2x23 and also part of a fake Red John had looked at it yet more . I always see fake Red John Brett Partridge events . And I remember saying at the end of 2x23'ün killing his daughter : " If there is one thing I have not seen nice , cheap imitations of my work . " I wonder if Red JohnPartridge , which is a fake events , trying to find out who collect tips . I thought in this regard . Both Partridge behavior, speech , posture, eye or something , in my mind that I could say for sure even creates the possibility of being Red John . I 'll tell you now that if I did not see detail .
Friends pay much attention here . 39:22 to 39:15 Red Johh'un march of 2x23'de very, very careful , please. Do not you see the way things are ? How do you move your foot or something . S? ? Now make sure the 6x02'de between 6:10 and 6x18 . Ray Haffner march !
If you really follow carefully . Ray Haffner , and also understand that Red John's parade . I was Red John , Ray Haffner think it is anymore. S? ? U features can not be disregarded .
1.80 from a little shorter.Muscular , but not soft .Short, straight hair.Gentle voice .Tough, strong hands .

Ray Haffner is the only suspect in my personal theory... And patrick's list is trustworthy. BUT... Patrick only thinks that Red John is one of Three people (not seven)... Ray Haffner, Gale Bertram, and Robert Kirkland... this is proven by the fact the patrick only shook hands with these three people. he never shook hands with Reede Smith, Brett Stiles, McAlister, or Partridge. 

Here is the proof that Haffner and Kirkland is the only possible people to be Red John. 

1. Red John is said to be a previous member of Visualize... Ray Haffner is the only person on the list known to be involved with Vizualize
2. Harker Rosalind (the blind lady who was involved with Red John) says that Red John has a full head of hair and states RJ's height (sry i don't remember what size she said... But BERTRAM is too tall and is bald) 

Robert K. is a very good suspect...  But here is why he isn't RJ. to explain this, i need to tell you that PJ has a plan to catch RJ... and he is one step ahead of RJ. and also why did PJ put 4 extra names on the list if PJ narrowed it down to 3???

PJ's Plan: 

Step one: prove that RJ is not psychic!
for this step to work, one must believe the Lorelei is still alive... and PJ knows that. so he narrowed his list to three people... then he wrote down the list (keep in mind that PJ is not a person who WRITES lists down... he can remember seven names just fine) he manipulated RJ's accomplice (either Kirkland or Berchem.. but i think it's Kirkland) into stealing the list and giving it to RJ. 

then RJ did what PJ wanted him to do... Let PJ know that RJ knows of the seven names and that the real RJ is one of the names..

RJ can't be psychic because he named all seven names... PJ put four extra names on the list so that if RJ was really psychic, he would know that the 4 other names (Reede Smith, Brett Stiles, McAlister, or Partridge) are fake... but he didn't!!!

 which proves to PJ that RJ took the list with 4 impossible names. that RJ didn't read Patrick's mind haha!

step 2: Use Lisbon to figure out if RJ is Ray H . (PJ already knows that Ray is RJ)

Lisbon did exaclly what Jane wanted... have bugs put into the phones of the seven suspects and then PJ gave the anonymous tip to the CBI about the disturbance that Partridge was in (he knew RJ would kill the most insulting suspect... Partridge. cuz RJ doesnt want to be compaired to a freak like Partridge) 

Keep in mind that the show has shown that Ray has a love intrest in Lisbon. (Love triangle between PJ and RJ for Lisbon???)

Ray killed Partridge and took Lisbon not killing her. the "big hint" is that: the face drawn on Lisbon's face is diffrent from the usual RJ smiley face. the eyes are "open" instead of "closed" like the usual RJ face. 

RJ didn't kill Lisbon because he is in love with her (the only reason why RJ would spare Lisbon)... the only person other than Jane to have an intrest in Lisbon is Ray Haffner... Proving that he is Red John!!!

Please give me your thoughts!
  

Hello. I want to share my theory with you. And sorry for my bad English ; )

Why I don't think that these men are not RJ:

1. Bret Stiles

First of all, would Red John have said to Patrick about Kristina Frye? I mean, he said where she was, so obviously Bret would be Patrick's suspect number 1 that time. That could ruins his game. What about that farm? That guy would not have said that some kid has painted that smiley face. And people from that farm would have recognized him.

2. Robert Kirkland

He kidnaps Patrick for what? Because he wants to get the real list. He wants to kill Red John.

3. Gale Bertram

What about that guy? He works with KIRKLAND. And do you remember when Kirkland asked: "Can we trust her?" And another thing, the best one... Would Red John acts so weird? That would be fun for him, but Patrick is too smart.
He acts so weird, because Kirkland showed him the fake list and he wants to know which one is RJ. And Kirkland started to kill these guys and I think that in the next episode will be something important about that relation.

4. Reede Smith

And here we go with that interesting man. Why I don't think that he is Red John?
Do you remember when RJ saved Patrick and he killed copycats? He was angry with them, but he was acting so CALMLY. And that how I see RJ - very calm and composed person. And Reede Smith is agressive, he was beating some guy (suspect I guess), he was arguing with Lisbon team, he was screming on Gale Bertram. Would Red John scream on his accomplice? I don't think so.

5. Sheriff Thomas McAllister

That guy is very interesting. It would be great if he is RJ. He was in 2nd episode, he acted very strange then. But... what was he doing with Bertram and Smith in CBI? There are two possibilities: he is RJ and he wanted to know what they know. He was so relaxed, so calm. He would be so awesome RJ : ). But I think that second option is right: they want to catch Red John before Patrick. Because why would Kirkland ask about Lisbon "Can we trust her?". Because they know that Patrick will kill him. So they want to get him before Jane. Maybe, maybe not. Or he is RJ's accomplice, what is also very possible.


Ray Haffner is Red John. Why I think so? Well I don't want him to be RJ, but I think that he is :/ Why would that nurse just ask if there is some woman? She wanted to check if Lisbon is alone. And Haffner is the only one who is not acting weird. Well, you heard a lot of theories about that guy, so I don't want to write that again. That's all, thanks for reading : )
 

I love the theory #6312 (http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/6312), it's one of the best theories I've read about Red John, but then, I remembered that, in Season 5 finale, Jane told Lisbon that he would tell her the names of his list but that she couldn't tell ''another living soul, nobody'' because she would act nervous around them and they would notice, and because one of the names, was Gale Bertram, her boss, and that name appears in Lorelei's video, but not in the notebook where are Mashburn, Ardiles, Ellis Mars, etc. So that makes me think that Jane did have the list of the seven final suspects but never appeared on-screen. Unless there's something going on about the video and about who really made it that we don't know. I actually really thought that the list of the notebook was the legit one, but after the Bertram thing, I don't know.

Another thing: Why doesn't Lisbon tell Jane that Haffner is member of Visualize and why doesn't she tell him about that creepy visit in the hospital? (Unless that happened off-screen). And why Kirkland sent his men to broke into Jane's attic and stole the Red John information that was on his board? How did he know that Jane had that information? The only person that saw that board before that, was Lisbon.

But, after all, I still think that none of the 7 suspects, is Red John. But if I had to pick a person from the list, that would be Haffner.

When I
first saw Jane’s suspect list, I had a feeling that all had something to do with
the seven sins. With all the Blake connections, tiger and the lamb, the coexistence
of evil and good, I thought it was a little more than just a coincidence that
Jane had seven suspects.


I am
thinking that there are 6 sinners on that list together with RJ. They somehow
made bad choices, big mistakes, which brought them to RJ, made them vulnerable
and dependent. Maybe not all of them know who RJ really is. However, they do
his bidding, most probably providing information, cleaning up his mess, etc. not
too lose their positions or freedom. I think they also got to know each other over
the years and developing their own plan to get rid of RJ. That would be my
explanation for the trailer of 6x4, where Kirkland tries to get Jane’s list, as
well as all for all the discussions “Can we trust him?” or “How much does Jane
exactly know?”. Bertram wants to be at the scene, maybe to make sure that RJ
will not be arrested and brought to court. This way he can prevent him to name
them as his disciples. These 6 on the list were the most valuable ones so far,
so RJ wanted to keep them and didn’t dispose them like he usually does.



Coming back
to the 7 sins, after some googling and a rerun of “The Name of the Rose” I have
found the list of sins, colors, and punishments:


Pride
(Violet): broken on the wheel


Envy
(Green): put in freezing water


Sloth
(Light blue): thrown in snake pits


Greed
(Yellow): put in cauldron of boiling oil


Gluttany
(Orange): forced to eat rats, toads and snakes
Lust
(Blue): smothered in fire and brimstone


Wrath
(Red): dismembered alive



Today I saw
the title of the 6th episode “Fire and brimstone” and I was just tempted to
post my thoughts here to get maybe some hints to match suspects and sins :)
Considering RJ’s style, I don’t really believe that the punishments will comply
with the list, and also some of them will survive the hunt.

With the
way he behaved himself in episode 1x2 drooling over VanPelt, McAllister would
qualify rather well for lust.



I have a
feeling that Partridge takes either envy or sloth.

Stiles or
Bertram could fit to greed? Kirkland could fit to pride, Smith maybe gluttony?



My gut
tells me RJ is Haffner. However, I actually don’t know much about the past of
most suspects, so it is nothing more than a wild guess.

This makes
me admire the work of Heller even more, with all the twists. I think we will
have some flashbacks in the post RJ episodes. I like very much that, Jane more
or less impersonates all the sins himself and still can strive for redemption
and how RJ is portrayed as the proud Master, who can convert people with
weaknesses to sinners, and a sinner like Jane to a good honest man.

 

 

 



thanks for reading :)

Hi all,

Red John is one of the seven people call. Because I came to a clear explanation. If this list is fake immunity told CBS 'reputation or something, do not lie this time, the statement said. So tell me, clearly said Brett Partridge died, was emphatically called six suspects. Both the original site, to your facebook page as well as fragments of a new promotion. How much do you think it would be right to have a lie?Do you think the right thing to mislead the audience? Viewers theories focus on producing six suspects. I do not think it would be something like this. I think Brett Partridge is dead. And Red from John Ray Haffner.

According to the description of Red John, he is a whistler. Anyone catch Haffner whistling when he left Lisbons hospital room in episode 2?
Then again, it may be too obvious - Fun finding out though