I just saw something rather peculiar at tvguide.com!

They have already written a plot synopsis for the 4th episode called "Red Listed" and it is as follows;

"Episode Synopsis: Jane creates a phony list of Red John suspects and it gets stolen, endangering the lives of those named on the list. "

Thoughts?

After Sundays episode I'm thinking it's a group effort, not just a single person, the 3 law enforcement agents were in the room when Jane walked in and when he walked out they started talking about "how close jane is" makes me think it's a group. Just a theory.

I think that RJ is not anyone from the list of seven suspects, but it's really Jane's father. He was angry that Jane ran away with his wife. After that since his main job was with Jane and his illusion tricks, So I believe that after that he went into depression and started killing people. I have little evidence of this but the only evidence is somewhat partial and it is that in a season 1 or 2 episode some Sheriff said that RJ was his dad's friend and this Sheriff was in his late 20's so RJ must be in his 50's or 60's.

Anyway it's just a theory. Hope you like it!

I think it is revealed in the black winged redbird episode that all 7 suspects are Red John. When Jane gets out of  Bertram's office, they all look guilty, even though they should be relieved for the progress. Also Reede Smith gets angry with Bertram for not finding out how deep Jane knows. But again he shouldn't be unless they all hiding something.

what sophie said might be a trap because jane said that RJ could get that memorie without meating sophie so did he pretended to be a patiente to get the information and mislead jane with the descreption ?

Some thoughts about the last episodes.
First I think Red John's
identity has been desided almost from the start and every trick the
writers play is for making every posibility plausible until RJ is
revealed. The list of suspects is one of those tricks, and it's classic.
So
i think that through the 6th season we will wittnes a lot of tricks
similar to the ones magicians use to draw our attention away from the
important detail that is happening at the same time, and we fail to see it!
In the second episode of season 6 there are at least 2 of those magic tricks:
1)
Lisbon is in the bed at the hospital talking to Jane. There is a knock
at the door and a nurse-doctor asks for someone Carmen Lee. We can see
Jane turning to look at her and he puts some thought to the incident.
Ok, now right after that Lisbon reminds Jane that RJ reached in his mind
and killed a happy memory of his! Right after he exits the room he
tries to reach Sophie on the phone. He also happens upon that same
doctor at the corridor and he doesn't give her any more attention.
So
I think that Carmen Lee is the trick. It's a random event with no
significance that makes as think that it's the reason he remembered
Sophie Miller. The truth is that the idea to look for Sophie was planted
into Jane's mind by Lisbon when she reminded him of RJ killing a happy
memory. Later on Jane is in bed looking up and he gets a flash-back of
Sophie. It's a happy memory one would think. Well I don't. Take a look
at episode 10 of season 1 again. The flash back is from that episode. If
Jane was recalling a happy memory, it would be something like the flash
backs he has in that old episode. That is of Sophie helping him at the
asylum or him and her saying goodbye. But what do we get as a flash
back: Jane and Lisbon meating Doctor Miller! Moments later Cho asks Jane
if he is still working their case and he answers "always!" Oh yes. He
is always calculating all possibilities!
2) Second trick same
episode. The scene at the park. There is nothing more common in parks
than a lady feeding pingeons. And yet we have a lady who looks very much
like Partridge sitting on a bench next to them feeding pingeons. Well
it's a random event put there to full us. We get to think that it could
be RJ just because we saw pingeons at the end of the previous episode!
But something very important is happening right there and we may mis it.
Jane makes Lisbon think they sould look for Sophie's files and maybe
they find clues that RJ went to see her before. Have you noticed that
Jane hides the fact that Sophie only taped sesions and didn't type them!
He hides the fact that sophie's recorder is allready in his pocket!
Why. Did anybody noticed that or we just looked at Jane looking at the
pingeons? Later when the team fails to find any file on RJ visit to
Sophie, Jane pops Sophie's recorder and acts like he fulled RJ. Well it was his team that he fulled.
3)
And lastly I noticed something that looks very unexplained to me. Jane
breaks into Sophies house. he walks to her desk. On it we see a photo of
her with her dog. So we assume she's single. Jane can assume the same
but Jane can know even more that what is obvious to us. He's smarter.
Next he looks into the fridge, then he reads the note on the fridge and
then he opens the oven. Ok, for a moment let's go back to episode 1 of
season 1. The pilot. Jane explains to Partridge at the crime scene that
RJ thinks of himself as an artist. First you see the bloody smile and
know they are dead and feel the terror and then you get to see the dead
body. That's exactly what RJ did here, but Jane fails to see the RJ
smiley on the same note that says "dinner's in the oven" and gets
surprised by the head in the oven. That i can explain. This is not our
Jane. Jane looks at what you ate for dinner and he knows right there
that you killed yourself for honor! At least I find this very strange.
Also have you noticed that Jane took Sophie's recorder before finding
her dead? It would make more sence if he took the recorder of a dead Sophie not a living one!

So any thoughts?

Hey people!

I was thinking (like I have nothing else to do but somehow this mystery grabbed me badly)... We know that there's a hidden agenda or conspiracy (maybe a crime) involving almost every layer of the US security forces (Bob: Homeland Security, Reede (FBI), Gale (CBI), Sherrif (local law enforcement), Brett (CSI under CBI), Ray (now private detective). Only Stiles has no involvement in law enforcement but he / his cult somehow pulls the strings of some / many law enforcers within different categories (at least we have some examples of this).

Let's remember Bob Kirkland was trying to pull back Lisbon from chasing after Tommy Volker who is/was a considerably wealthy guy (I'd like to start another discussion whether Mashburn or Volker is richer but that would be another day:). And Bob wanted this kept off-the-record. Same Bob is seen with Bertram later on discussing whether they can trust Lisbon or not and if I remember correctly, the topic was Red John. As Bertram's response to Bob regarding whether to trust her or not was also not too sharp and he seemed to be unsure about it. After all they've been through under the same roof, Bertram should have known that she can't be wholly trusted when it comes to Jane-Red John related topics because she is closer to PJ than she is to Bertram. The two have shared the same field of work, overcome dangerous situations together, and apparently have some feelings for each other. Bertram is just a boss figure (most of the time friendly but still having a solid boss image). And Bertram is not stupid to be unaware of the fact that Lisbon would choose PJ if she is confronted with the fact that Bertram is actually an RJ accomplice. So, if that was the situation, Bertram's response for such a question from Bob would be a rock-solid NO. 

This idea makes me think that these people are somehow in connection with RJ but not willingly. The reason why I'm writing this post is to get everyone's opinion on what really is going on in this triangle. Because I watched every episode only once and watching them again would take a long time which I don't have. But many of you might have a fresh memory or bits and pieces of information that would help us connect the dots on this (if there's any). It looks to me that these guys are not happy getting involved with RJ and they need every possible hand they could use in order to take him down without having themselves busted as well. I think that Bob didn't kill Lennon due to revenge but it was an assistance to RJ, and all the other guys on the same boat knows about it. So my guess is that they are not protecting RJ but they feel obliged. Of course it doesn't mean that these guys are saints because definitely, whatever it is they are signed up for, it requires deviation from their original course. So, what could that be? What could be so attractive to bring together FBI, CBI, Local PD and Homeland on a single secret agenda? What could be RJ's role in this? 

Another point of view; should we accuse Haffner (a surveillance expert) of being RJ who has detected the others' collective wrongdoing and threatened them into doing what he desired otherwise they would be exposed? If that's the case, do these guys know that he is RJ (was it an open threat?) or the threat came under disguise, so they have no idea it was Haffner? Or the picture is actually bigger and these guys only represent their associations with an operative identity in this secret agenda but the actual players are at higher levels? Because these guys come together often and all need to report to their superiors (you can't just get lost for days on an unknown mission without the knowledge of your boss unless you're assigned). Hell, if it's going to reach out to the presidential level (like in Prison Break), I want to know.

Or should I give credit to posters who believe that RJ is actually a group of people running a secret agenda and covering it under the mask of a serial killer (if we assume that there's a secret reason behind each murder and nothing is as it seems)? If so, there must be a connection between all RJ murders. Plus, if that was the case, why hire a guy like Jane in the CBI? Looking for trouble when it would be the last thing you needed? I think we should pass this idea. However, if there was a single RJ all the time and he requested these guys to hire him, then we're experiencing a case where the serial killer wants to be caught (like many) but this guy just picked a specific person to do that. Nevertheless, I don't believe in the idea that the whole storyline is based on a psychotic super-clever killer who wants to play games with another bright guy because we've seen it millions of times on the screen and only the way it's processed differently is not good enough for me to buy it. There's absolutely something deeper but what? Let's just connect the dots fellas. Because to me, it's more intriguing what's really going on rather than who RJ is.