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Okay, so I'm gonna watch every episode of The Mentalist and make my own list of suspects (since nobody can trust Janes list). These are the things I'm gonna base my suspicions:

1. Red John is under 6 ft tall or less than 3 inches over 6 ft. (I think that is trustable information)

2. Red John is man. (RJ may not be, but since I'm gonna trust the information above I gotta trust this one too and if RJ is not a man than it's Lisbon)

3. Red John has shaked hands with Jane. (I have to base my list on this, course I couldn't make a list if we wouldn't have seen RJ yet)

Things that I CAN'T trust are:

1. Something that Bruno Heller has told us. (he's brobably just messing with us)

2. Something that Jane has told us. (for example the list)
Does enyone think that there is something that I have forgotten there?

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ALEX JANE IS RED JOHN!!!

Think about it, it fits 

Who else knows everything about Patrick Jane, who taught him everything

I know that his wife and child were killed by RJ - but you never know he maybe was a cold hearted m*****f****r

So who else was in a better position than to produce a list, identical to the one patrick deduced, than the man who taught him how to!

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What if the man that saved Jane wasn't the Real Red John. It could've been Timothy Carter (Similar Voice), or Todd Johnson ("Tyger Tyger")

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This has nothing to do with who is red john.
I am just writing this so that we can try to understand what happened so far and what PJ might be thinking.

I just think there is a mystery about Bob/Lorelei and Lisbon.And if we can answer these questions we might know what PJ is planning.

Mystery about Bob:Case-1:
Assume Bob is not RedJohn or Associate of RedJohn and he is a good guy hunting down RedJohn.
If he does not know who RJ is:
Jason very well knew RJ. So why did not he ask Jason who RJ is? 
He is asking Virgil/GaleB/Lisbon about RJ right from the start.why did not he ask Jason who actually know who is RJ? its strange??
Also, whats the need to kill Jason.?
If he does know who RJ is:
why not simplly follow/kill RJ?
why follow PJ's investigation?Why should he break into PJ's room?
why he need details on PJ's investigation?
Case-2: Bob is RedJohn or Associate of RedJohn

Killing Jason makes sense as Jason might reveal who RJ is to CBI/PJ.Also (RJ)Bob wanted to know where PJ is with his investigation. So he broke into PJ's room to find the details.

Mystery on Lorelei's Death:

Case-1: Its a fake:If its fake, who is she teaming up with ? PJ or RJ?
If PJ is behind this, RJ did not kill her even though it was shown like that.
so RJ would easily come to know about this and suspect PJ/Lorelei.
So what PJ/Lorelei is tring to achieve here by faking her death?
Moreover,Lorelei knows who RJ is and wanted to get revenge for her sister.
She could easily tell PJ who RJ is and then both of them can kill RJ.why they care about clues/proofs/evidence or even suspects?
They want to catch redjohn with actual proof and put him in jail.? i doubt it.
We all know both PJ and Lorelei want RJ to be dead. so why all this drama? 
Faking the death and reading out suspects makes no sense at all.
IF  RJ is behind this, why Lorelei should team up with RJ as she want to kill RJ.
is she held captive by RJ? and RJ is making her do this to play with PJ? Thats a possibility.

Case-2: Its real. Lorelei is dead:

Bob broke into Jane's room after Lorelei's death.If Lorelei's death is real, how can she read PJ's suspects?
When reading out Jane's suspects we can see she looks really bad and has a bandage on her left arm. 
But there were no sign of this when she was shown as dead. why?

Mystery about Lisbon:

In the later stages of season-5, PJ is reserching/suspecting all persons he met since he joined CBI.May be he found something enough to suspect Lisbon. May be Lisbon is not RJ associate from the start. But defintely there is something on her now linking to RJ. 

How RJ knows PJ is preparing a list of persons whom he shook hands with?Only Lisbon/Lorelei knows this apart from Jane.

Why did RJ asks for Lisbon's dead body as a gift in Season-4 finale.? We know PJ would not have killed anyone. so why ask for Lisbon?

Bob says to PJ in hospital, that PJ was there watching when Lorelei shot Jason.who else might have known this apart from Lorelei/PJ. Lisbon was the first to arrive at the scene.only Lorelei/Lisbon would have told him.

If Lisbon is RJ's associate from the start, does RJ trust her that much to allow her to work and get close with PJ?is it not a big gamble for RJ?

We can carve out number of theories/possibilities based on this.But these are just a guessing game following the clues. might not be true.

Theory-1:Lisbon(or some one else) steals PJ's suspect list and give it to RJ.RJ then make Lorelei to read the list and kills her.And then he sends the video to PJ at a later stage.
Bob is RJ's associate.
He breaks in to PJ's room.If RJ already got the list from Lisbon, why did Bob breaks into PJ's room.?This is a cover-up. 
The writers do not want us to suspect any one else except Bob for stealing Jane's list.
Bob is a obvious candidate for RJ's associate right from the start. So they just throw Bob as a bait to us.
Just think, we would have defintely suspected Lisbon(or any one else) if they had not shown Bob breaking into PJ's room.How else would RJ have the list?

Something similar to this happened in Season-3 finale.Intially it was shown GaleBertram is RJ's inside man and later they revealed it was Craig OLaughlin.

Theory-2:
Lorelei is not dead. She is held captive by RJ and she is doing what RJ says.So RJ is faking her death. Then RJ asks Jason to break into PJ's room and get the actual suspects.And RJ makes Lorelei to read this.

Thanks for reading.Please post your comments.


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I'm just going to share some thoughts with you, and i warn you straight forward - this post might change the way you look at the whole Red John issue.

Let's start at the very beginning.
In season one we were already given a lot of information about Red John. Bruno Heller is, no doubt, a genius in storywriting and planned everything the way it's going to make sense to us rewatching all the past seasons after Red John is revealed. But nobody seems ever to care about the fact that even Bruno couldn't know how many seasons that would be granted to 'The Metalist' - so he must have kept to possibility to reveal his identity at the any of any season. In simple terms - with every new season there have been more red herrings and misleads. I believe it's not necessary to analize all seasons but the first and the second. We are now down to seven names, and can exclude a whole punch looking at the physical data given. So with the few names left, lay down on your comfortable bed or sofa and rewatch the first two seasons. I believe that there's enough information.

All based on the assumption that the seven names are correct, but I believe Bruno wouldn't lie about that, would he?

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And if the list was that of episode 7 or 8, with Minelli, Mashburn, Ardiles or Harken? I think Red John is more likely to be in this list. In his interview, Heller said "this list" but perhaps the list of the last episode he was talking about ...I'm french so I need details about the interview Heller

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Red John is not a person. It is an Organization.  

Why he is many?
It is an ultimate trick in purpose to defend the Organization from CBI and FBI.
It is because of distraction, and removing conclusions about what is the main point.
Red John is flexible Team, based on clear rules and NO HIERARCHY.
If Jane catches one of them, Red John will still exist.
Organization have assistants. They are all, as a rule, seduced. But it is most important that they dont know what is Red John exactly. Even Red Johns victims dont know what is the big picture.
This is the reason why someone like Jane is struggling and why he is helpless in his battle with Red John. Members in Red John team have trust in each other. They cooperate and have divided roles.
It is the killing machinery, consisted of highly intelligent, strong and powerful people.
They have similar ideals and principles.
They are enjoying in their Game. They are all psychopaths, like Jane. But they are evil psychopaths and threat to society. 
Organization is dividing suspect from one to another member in purpose to distract Jane.
It is a reason that we have so many potential suspects,

Remember these Red Johns words?  
"But if you really did have a change of heart, what if you and I were friends? Imagine the life we could lead. It's a higher path, Patrick. A nobler existence."
They want Jane in their Team! They want to defeat their biggest enemy attracting him.
They are using Janes "powers" to impress him, in purpose to force him to submit to them.

For me, it is theory that cover all logical gaps which appears in resolving who Red John is.
Maybe I am wrong. Maybe my theory is so apstract and silly.
Maybe I dont want to see Brett Partridge is Red John. 
One thing is sure, these spectacular series deserves spectacular theory and spectacular finish.
I dont want to be disappointed!


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