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Bob Kirkland

Bob Kirkland
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I believe that Reede Smith killed Michael Kirkland; therefore Bob is still floating around somewhere.
If RJ can have Timothy Carter impersonate Rj, and Bertram impersonate RJ on the phone with PJ, then why not have Sheriff McAllister impersonate him. I am hopeful that the typical characteristics of a serial killer will come out in the real Red John. I don't believe that Patrick is as stupid as the writers have portrayed him and will defintely clear up what Patrick knows.  

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Here is the thing people.  Oh and by the way, hello from Canada.

1.  It was a little dissapointing that thomas ended up being red john but we all knew that we would be dissapointed anyways.  Each suspect had their pros and their cons and no one would have been truly satisfied regardless of the outcome.

2.  It is a shame that the episode got leaked, how that happened, who knows, but obviously it was enough of a draw for millions of people if they were so hell bent on getting in there.  And if CBS leaked it, well, they leaked it.

3.  So, I have read the theories here for months now, and on facebook as I am an avid fan, although blacklist is my mentalist 2.0.  Here is what I took from last night.  Remember that episode where Jane was to deliver Lisbon's head?  Remember the last scene where he and she were embracing each other and that cop car drove by.  Remember that the faceless cop had a sheriffs hat on?  That was tip off enough really.

4.  Now to the future of this show for the remaining 14 some odd episodes.  I thought after seeing last nites show that we kinda had a timothy carter thing happen again with thomas.  Clearly to me, he was not red john either but a pawn.  It just reaked of the same scenerio again.  And i am going to give Bruno the benefit of the doubt that we will be shocked as this progresses, two years into the future or not.  That is why there were so many un answered questions.  Just like Timothy, Thomas had some correct information but not everything.  I think that Michael Kirkland or Walter is the larger Red John here and controlled Thomas too.  The woman that tried to kill Patrick kinda indicated this.  Why?  Cause "a" she was a woman, "b" Thomas had no idea or inclination that she was there to prtect him, "c" thomas was clearly trying to make Patrick think he was Red John so that the whole thing would die down.  This is because of the tyger tyger thing getting out and the true ringmaster of the group being outted by Kirland (bob) and Reede.  I would surmise here that we will see this as things play out because it is never just that simple.  I also think that CBI Ron plays a larger role here that is yet to be seen although not the ring leader. 

4.  Thomas being Red John is the ultimate red herring here and I think that we will see this going forward.  He was a killer no doubt, and likely committed some of the red john murders on behalf of the real red john who doesnt want to get their hands dirty, which makes sense given red johns true use of others to carry out his plans.  We all expected more and I think that Bruno is going to give us just that as this plays out, thats why this event occured so early in this season.  Is it the last season?  Maybe, and if so, then this event last nite will pale in comparison to the real climax yet to be shown. 

5.  I hope that with all the drama surrounding this, the fans realize as I did that the show will continue with the Red John theme, just not as we imagined it.  Last nite moved so quickly on purpose.  It was a snow job for the real "mentalist" like fans to see through or not.  I am sure we have not seen the last of the painted red smiley face and again, Patrick and the crew will be on the hunt for the puppet master himself.

PS, dont take this site down, it aint over yet..,..........

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Will we get more information about Red John?

Heller: We won’t be going back.  …  Once the curtain is drawn back from these evil Wizard of Oz
characters they tend not to be very interesting dinner companions. They
tend to be ego-maniacal one-track minds … There is a great deal of
[backstory], if anyone waned to ask those questions, I’d be happy to
answer. There’s a lot of questions about motivations and what [Red John]
was doing and when and how… It makes for great Internet fodder, but
it’s not very entertaining for a weekly TV audience.

Baker: When Red John dies there’s a part of Jane that
dies in that moment as well. It’s kind of what he’s been about since we
met him. It takes a little time to get back on his feet again. He
doesn’t have a wife and kid, he doesn’t have a relationship with anyone
other than those he worked with at the CBI and this perverse
relationship/obsession with Red John, which is now over … In the very
next episode there was a line that referenced Red John and I was pretty
adamant about losing it. Because we’ve said “Red John” about 4 million
times and 3 million in the last 7 episodes … It’s nice to have to have a
good clean cut and not have Jane speak of him … Even if he speaks [of
killing him], he doesn’t mention “Red” or “John” in same sentence.

It's over guys, we will never ever get answers for our questions. What a waste of time !!!. Who will watch mentalist now ? Even if episode 8 was crapy, i would watch next ones only for answers ..but now that we know RJ is a psychic and that we won't get any answer (he is mar, the list of suspects, visualize farm, ...), there are no reason i watch mentalist again.

Mentalist is over !! Ending as bad as Dexter and Lost.

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Alright guys. What did you think of this episode? 

Green: you liked it and you're satisfied.

Red: you didn't like it and you're disappointed.

I want Bruno Heller's blood right now as far as I'm concerned. That prick stole 40 minutes of my life every week for 5 years. Worst series ending. Ever. Ain't gonna watch The Mentalist ever again.

PS: I am still mourning Bob Kirkland. He was the best character in the series so far, and the most under-exploited.

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Firstly, what a crap ending to an awesome series.
Just something to think about, if RJ was really this great mind, he knew there were pigeons at the Partridge murder scene and therefore should have predicted Jane would latch onto his fear of pigeons especially after Jane noticed it again episode 2.

For such a "powerful" mind he really seemed unprepared.

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I want my theory to be the real one, and in my mind this would be it.
Here is my theory if you are interested.

Kirkland is indeed killed by Reede Smith.Michael (Bob's twin brother),
finds out that the Blake association is behind his beloved brother's
death.This upsets him, in the point that he rebels against the
association and Red John of course.
Michael (with the help of
Visualize and Bret Stiles) managed to get sober, built a remarkable and
unique personality. He is evil, no doubt, because he is the right hand
of a serial killer.He gets angry learning about how and why his brother
died, and he starts feeling guilty, because he realizes his mistakes.So,
he approaches Jane, he tells him everything about the
organization and the tattoo.He also tells Jane the name of Red
John.(improvise here). For me that would be Partridge but whatever you
like just put him in his position.Now, Jane knows who Red John is, but
still he needs a master plan to make him reveal himself.He
invites all the remaining suspects in his house.Partridge must act fast
in order to keep his secret safe.Unfortunately for him, it's too
late.No one dies in the explosion.Red John has a lot of
links so he can easily dumb dead bodies with DNA evidence on them
suggesting that the suspects are dead.The two alive ones (Bertram and
Smith) remained alive so the game will continue.Stiles and Haffner are
with RJ's part of course, because the Blake association and Visualize
are helping each other with their goals, so one is obligated to help the
other.Jane's reaction is immediate.He knows there is
no way that Smith is RJ, especially after his confession.The guy passing
by the interrogation room is Michael.Then Jane goes
and reveals Bertram as RJ.The whole attention turns to Bertram.He runs
away because if he doesn't he will possibly die by RJ or someone in the
association.RJ is getting furious watching his whole work to be credited
in Bertram, so he leaves a message that only Patrick could decode.It
says that he is RJ and he wants to meet with him, both without any guns
or backups.Jane agrees.Bertram appears in the church telling to Jane he
is RJ.Of course he doesn't believe him.Then the real RJ walks into the
church and kills Bertram while saying "An other thing I can't stand is
when someone gets credits for my unique work."And then he appears
wearing his classic cape and mask.On his side he has
Lorelei,(she is not dead, there are enough clues to prove it:
http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/13493 .Lorelei was
trying to kill RJ, when he figured it out, he persuade her that he
didn't kill her sister and take her on his side again.Together they make
the video,sometime after Jane finished the list)
Jane stares at him
while he is extremely tense.(Like the season 2 finale). Neither RJ nor
Lorelei are pointing him with their guns.PJ stays stunned, while the two
walk all along the hall.All of a sudden, Michael makes his appearance
this time at the side of Patrick.Red John says: 'Michael, I feel
betrayed and impressed at the same time.Well done"
Michael answers 'You really shouldn't kill my brother"
while hearing these words starts to think about her sister again, and
freezes.Jane seems so surprised for all the things that are happening at
the same time.While RJ is some steps ahead of Lorelei, she is pointing
him with her gun.RJ turns around and kill her.Then PJ gets the moment to
take off his weapon.He manages to shoot RJ but not so bad that he
manages to run away.Jane and Michael start to chase RJ.But when they
arrive at the park there is a little surprise for them.They find
themselves surrounded by people all wearing the same capes and masks as
RJ does.Patrick loses sight over RJ because he becomes one with the
crowd.Then they all start: 'Tyger, Tyger burning bright, in the forests
of the night.What immortal hand or eye could frame thy fearful
Then they ask Patrick and Michael to throw their guns.They
do it of course.Right after, RJ's voice saying "Step aside'.The crowd
separates and RJ appears.
"You are a clever man Patrick, you just
never used your intelligence appropriately.I'm smarter than you,
obviously.But you could achieve so much more if you were by my side"
Patrick: 'You take pleasure from killing people, that's not clever, that's paranoia'
RJ: "So you say'
Patrick: 'So I say.I'm gonna kill you, and God is my witness.'
RJ: 'Look around you.The game is over and I won'
Michael starts to run, distracting the crowd while Jane chases RJ.He is
wounded, so he can't run.Jane takes off a hidden knife and backstabs
RJ, while the FBI/CBI arrive at the scene.PJ takes off RJ's mask and
beneath, it's Partridge.He starts saying things about Jane's wife and
daughter such as how they were dressed, how they smelled, that Jane's
daughter was indeed sleeping and never was scared, that Jane's wife
fought for her life and that she was the most difficult victim to bring
down.Then he starts telling details about the way he was cutting them
open.Patrick cries while listening all these, and strangles Partridge
while he is ironically laughing.RJ finally dies and it immediately
starts to rain.Jane gets on his knees, he cries and smiles at the same
time, looking to the sky with his hands in the air.

Hope you enjoy.

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Hey Bruno, are you making fun of LOST or making fun of US? Peanut brained loser!!!

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