Alex Jane, his dad. Plausible. We don't know where he is now, he would have been mad at Jane for leaving...
Alex Jane, his dad. Plausible. We don't know where he is now, he would have been mad at Jane for leaving...
It doesn’t seem likely it’s him, but looking up the meaning of the name the sites I looked at said that Reede means "red", and Smith means "to strike or smite". Interesting.
I posted a theory already, but I read it over and actually thought of something better.
One of the things that really bothered me was not knowing if Heller said or not that RJ is on that list. And if he did say that, would he lie.
Someone pointed out to me in another theory that Jane might have left fake information when they broke into his office. If I remember correctly, he put a toothpick there, and when he saw it had fallen he didn't seem to bothered, which makes me wonder. I actually really like this theory, thinking Jane is actually one step ahead of RJ and not the other way around. This might lead us to believe that RJ is not on the list, which gives me a little bit of happiness, because I do have some suspects who I like more then the ones on the list, like Mashburn.
That Lorelei died before Kirkland send team to investigate Jane's board does not mean he is not RJ. Let me explain:
He might have recorded more than one video. Like 50 videos for example. Why not? He has all the time in the world.
Then Kirkland kills Lorelei.
After that he asks Lisbon about RJ and Jane and makes Jane feel suspicious.
He sends a team to take photos of Jane's room. He knows Jane will notice that someone broke in the room, and possibly Kirkland's guys, after the conversation with Lisbon in the morning.
He works on the material and comes up with 7 suspects. He chooses the video that matches with possible suspects and gives it to that woman in CD.
Now, doesn't he have the best excuse?
I don't exactly know who it is. I have a few theories.
First, I've seen on a few websites and on a lot of theories on this site that Bruno Heller said that Red John is definitely on Jane's list. What I'm saying here will be using that assumption.
First thing I have to say, I'm actually really mad that Mashburn wasn't even considered as one suspect, and Reede and the Sheriff were. I really think the RJ suspects should be one of the characters that we had a little more insight on his life or past. These two only appeared in one episode each and not only did they not seem like RJ, they weren't even one of the most important characters in that episode. Mashburn, on the other hand, even though he appeared in only a few episodes, he was really important in his episode and we got to know his pretty well.
What I'm saying is I think RJ should be someone more memorable to the audience.
Second thing I have to say, Robert Kirkland is definitely involved in some way. He's probably not RJ, because I believe him being RJ would disappoint a lot of people, because of how obvious it would be, and that wouldn't be good for the show. A lot of people are trying to figure out how RJ knew the final names on the list before Jane. To those people I would like to remind the only other person who knew everything Jane had on the suspects, and that would be Kirkland, when he got the information after breaking into Jane's office. In my opinion, he is definitely involved with Red John, probably passing on the information to RJ, who, just as Jane, figured out the names. It's totally possible, as RJ has proved various times to be just as or smarter then Jane.
On the other suspects:
Brett, even though he seems to be very popular and I actually think it's possible, for some reason I don't think he's RJ. RJ is assumed to be god-like, being able to get so many followers and other things, and Brett just doesn't seem that way, unless it's all an act he puts on for Jane not to really see him.
Stiles is also definitely involved with RJ. One of Stiles scenes is, in fact, one of the biggest errors the show has committed in my opinion. When Stiles told Jane where to find Frye. Why did Jane not press on that lead, see what he knew, even though I doubt he would say something. I'm not ruling him out, but I think he doesn't have the figure or form to be RJ, unless the recent kills, none have been him.
Bertram might be RJ, there's a lot if clues pointing to him, but I just can't picture him killing someone.
With all of that in mind, assuming RJ is on that list, I would say RJ is Raymond Haffner. Haffner has the physical characteristics, the same ones described by Rosalind, even though I don't know if we should believe her, and he seems like what we, the audience, usually think of when we think of a villain, not a old, bald, fat guy, we think of a worthy opponent to Jane.
All of what I just said might be wrong. Even though it's just a TV show, maybe they'll do something we have never seen before, not being like other shows, and not being afraid of anything the audience may think. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out.
Red John 7 List of Suspects:
Bret Stiles
Gale Bertram
Ray Haffner
Reede Smith
Robert Kirkland
Sheriff Thomas McAllister
Brett Partridge
Red John Clues:
Red John is most likely a man
He appears to be a Caucasian, and is a white person as described by Haley
Red John has an average height: Rosalind described him as "just under 6 feet tall"
Red John has short straight hair (as described by Rosalind Harker)
Red John either has or puts on an odd, high pitched and soft voice
Red John should be older than 30 years (since his murders date back to the 90's)
Red John has a short straight hair, that means that Gale Bertram is not red john.He does not have short straight hair.
Red John has an average height, he should be just under 6 feet tall. Ray Haffner and Reede Smith is too tall. Haffner is 6ft1 and Reede Smith is 6ft2.
Now we are left with Stiles,Kirkland,McAllister and Partridge.
Red John has odd, high pitched and soft voice. Brett Stiles and Sheriff McAllister doesnt have soft voice.
With proven facts,we are left with Brett Partridge and Robert Kirkland.
Im going to use common sense and facts from Season 5 finale.
On the Season 5 finale, Jane watch a CD about Lorelei sending a message from Red John. Red John knows that Jane list will be narrowed down to 7.So we can assume that Red John knows Jane's progression way before Kirkland ask someone to break in Jane's room. If Kirkland is Red John, that means that he already knows about Jane's progress on finding Red John. If he already knows that, why would he ask someone to break in Jane's room? Like other theories, I dont rule him out just because he is too obvious. I use facts and common sense.
Red John is Brett Partridge.
Things that people say about Partridge that is not true:
He is too young to be Red John
The actor who plays Red John is 44 years old. How can you guys just assume that he is too young?
You can tell that he is too young by just looking at him? Come on, we need facts and confirmed evidence, not assumption.
He is too silly and foolish to be Red John
Another assumption made by people who cant accept the fact that Brett Partridge is Red John. Using common sense again, if he is foolish and silly, how can he be Forensic Expert.
He did not have resources to be Red John
How do people know that he does not have the resources? Can it be proven, is there any real evidence that shows he does not have the resource to be Red John. Until proven otherwise, we cant just assume he did not have the resources.
He is not manipulative enough to be Red John
He is already trying to manipulate Patrick Jane by playing with his mind on Red John crime scenes. The first Red John crime scene, he tries to prove to Jane that it is Red John who killed the woman. The truth is it is not Red John. On the Season 5 finale, when it is really Red John, he try to prove to Jane that it isnt Red John. He tries to mess with Jane's mind just like Red John.
Bruno Heller says that we might have saw Red John before Season 3. He also says that when we find out who Red John is, we will be disappointed.
We have seen Partridge since the first episode and we will definitely be disappointed if it was him because he is the most popular Red John suspect.
For those who still think that Patrick Jane is Red John. You must accept the truth that he would never be Red John. Bruno Heller says that it would be like cheating his audience.
He also says that there would be no more twist and turns in the storyline. There will only be facts. If Red John is not one of the 7 suspects, that would be a twist. So we know that Red John must be one of the 7 suspects. I have used all evidences and facts to get Red John.
If you want to debate about Red John is not Brett Partridge, feel free to write on comments.
Personally I was disappointed with the list of suspects. The 2 people that I would actually want to be Red John on that list are Brett Partridge and Ray Haffner, but I want Brett to be red John the most from that list so I am accusing him.