The latest theories about Red John's identity (page 207)

i think red john is teresa lisbon

1. i dont think red john knew what was in the tupperware box only that it existed. teresa following up to find what was in the box makes sence.

2. teresa was in janes office and saw the board allowing her to figure out what names jane would come up with.

3. she wanted to know who janes 7 suspects were, to avoid suspicion and to confirm what was in her video.

4. who better to kill janes wife that anouther woman that probly in love with him.

5. this would be a crazy twist.

6. we know red john uses people who say they are him.

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Red John 7 List of Suspects:
Bret Stiles --RED HERRRING
Gale Bertram -- VERY POSSIBLE
Ray Haffner ---POSSIBLE
Reede Smith --- POSSIBLE
Robert Kirkland --- TOO OBVIOUS SO NOPE
Sheriff Thomas McAllister ---CAN SOMEONE ENLIGHTEN ME WHO IS HE which episode is he from?
Brett Partridge --- VERY POSSIBLE

My top two contenders are Brett Partridge and Gale Bertram and yet both are only possible because of being at the right place every wrong time. Seriously now that I think about it, Brett Patridge might be a little too obvious as well its as if they are rewarding long time followers of the show more than placing actual red john clues so I'm going to go back to Gale.

Why? Gale Bertnam has the means to always be one step of Jane and Lisbon's team because duh he's the boss. I just cannot get over the fact that he also once recited William Blake's poem that is by NO MERE COINCIDENCE, and I just can visualize him having the means to contact Kirkland from Homeland Security more so than Brett. Thus having Jane's seven suspect in the first place to send that creepy video.

(Continue reading to see why I select Brett though)

Kirkland is definitely a HELPER/FRIEND of rj whether intentionally or not thus explaining the Lorelai Martins fake corpse thingy. I mean if he turns out to be rj I would feel kinda of cheated for having speculate so much only when the answer is like just him. Heller won't want to take the audience on a joyride I hope.

Brett Stiles is only possible for being rj because of the fact that its played by Malcom hahaaha and I don't think so. However, I look forward to his presence each time because he is just so enjoyable to watch :)

Ray Haffner seems like a possible suspect because he is just so annoying haha but I think that his presence in that main episode was more of to show the Lisbon's team dynamics and cooperation (one of my fav!) rather than being a redjohn episode.

I remembered someone describing him of somewhat like a surveillance kind of person and while this matches the personality of RJ, there is still too little evidence for us to exactly say why.

Reede Smith hard to tell as well due to the lack of evidence :( thus more likely and unlikely at the same time.

HOWEVER, while logically it seems as if Bertnam is the man, I select Brett because I WANT him to be RJ and I am sure many people here would agree. Thus making his character even more like a sociopath because he really did put on a mask to behave stupidly each time in front of Jane.

The director might consider taking the popular choice ;) plus he's been with us since we first met Jane.

On a separate note, please comment on what you think of the season finale!! I love it! Confirmed my suspicion of four out of seven that I suspected with the exception of the Sheriff and Reede Smith. People who thought Jane is RJ can just stop watching the show muahahaha.

And the Jisbon relationship is really progressing! Lisbon didnt even pretend to deny her infatuation hehe. Rigsby and Van Pelt are also back together love Cho's expression when he mentioned it coolly to Rigsby. :D Feel free to add friendly and constructive comments!

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Theory #2574 • By pnjumar

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Alex Jane, his dad. Plausible. We don't know where he is now, he would have been mad at Jane for leaving...

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Theory #2571 • By bongo_x

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It doesn’t seem likely it’s him, but looking up the meaning of the name the sites I looked at said that Reede means "red", and Smith means "to strike or smite". Interesting.

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I posted a theory already, but I read it over and actually thought of something better.

One of the things that really bothered me was not knowing if Heller said or not that RJ is on that list. And if he did say that, would he lie.

Someone pointed out to me in another theory that Jane might have left fake information when they broke into his office. If I remember correctly, he put a toothpick there, and when he saw it had fallen he didn't seem to bothered, which makes me wonder. I actually really like this theory, thinking Jane is actually one step ahead of RJ and not the other way around. This might lead us to believe that RJ is not on the list, which gives me a little bit of happiness, because I do have some suspects who I like more then the ones on the list, like Mashburn.

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That Lorelei died before Kirkland send team to investigate Jane's board does not mean he is not RJ. Let me explain:

He might have recorded more than one video. Like 50 videos for example. Why not? He has all the time in the world.

Then Kirkland kills Lorelei.

After that he asks Lisbon about RJ and Jane and makes Jane feel suspicious.

He sends a team to take photos of Jane's room. He knows Jane will notice that someone broke in the room, and possibly Kirkland's guys, after the conversation with Lisbon in the morning.

He works on the material and comes up with 7 suspects. He chooses the video that matches with possible suspects and gives it to that woman in CD.

Now, doesn't he have the best excuse?

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I don't exactly know who it is. I have a few theories.

First, I've seen on a few websites and on a lot of theories on this site that Bruno Heller said that Red John is definitely on Jane's list. What I'm saying here will be using that assumption.

First thing I have to say, I'm actually really mad that Mashburn wasn't even considered as one suspect, and Reede and the Sheriff were. I really think the RJ suspects should be one of the characters that we had a little more insight on his life or past. These two only appeared in one episode each and not only did they not seem like RJ, they weren't even one of the most important characters in that episode. Mashburn, on the other hand, even though he appeared in only a few episodes, he was really important in his episode and we got to know his pretty well.

What I'm saying is I think RJ should be someone more memorable to the audience.

Second thing I have to say, Robert Kirkland is definitely involved in some way. He's probably not RJ, because I believe him being RJ would disappoint a lot of people, because of how obvious it would be, and that wouldn't be good for the show. A lot of people are trying to figure out how RJ knew the final names on the list before Jane. To those people I would like to remind the only other person who knew everything Jane had on the suspects, and that would be Kirkland, when he got the information after breaking into Jane's office. In my opinion, he is definitely involved with Red John, probably passing on the information to RJ, who, just as Jane, figured out the names. It's totally possible, as RJ has proved various times to be just as or smarter then Jane.

On the other suspects:

Brett, even though he seems to be very popular and I actually think it's possible, for some reason I don't think he's RJ. RJ is assumed to be god-like, being able to get so many followers and other things, and Brett just doesn't seem that way, unless it's all an act he puts on for Jane not to really see him.

Stiles is also definitely involved with RJ. One of Stiles scenes is, in fact, one of the biggest errors the show has committed in my opinion. When Stiles told Jane where to find Frye. Why did Jane not press on that lead, see what he knew, even though I doubt he would say something. I'm not ruling him out, but I think he doesn't have the figure or form to be RJ, unless the recent kills, none have been him.

Bertram might be RJ, there's a lot if clues pointing to him, but I just can't picture him killing someone.

With all of that in mind, assuming RJ is on that list, I would say RJ is Raymond Haffner. Haffner has the physical characteristics, the same ones described by Rosalind, even though I don't know if we should believe her, and he seems like what we, the audience, usually think of when we think of a villain, not a old, bald, fat guy, we think of a worthy opponent to Jane.

All of what I just said might be wrong. Even though it's just a TV show, maybe they'll do something we have never seen before, not being like other shows, and not being afraid of anything the audience may think. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out.

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