Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Let me put some thoughts on how the show goes and how people react and what's happening why...

First of all, for the ones who ask questions like "there must be a reason why the writers place single-shot characters like Mc Allister again in 6th season...". Yes, they must be doing this because as we are given the list of 7 and those characters take place in it, it's pretty natural to keep those guys in the picture. How else would Bruno keep you thinking of shallow theories (Distraction)?

Second, there are the ones asking " Why didn't they show BP's body on 6x02? They just showed the body bag and skipped it quickly..." Yes, because otherwise, the ones who die for BP to be RJ wouldn't be producing any further theories (distraction) no more.

"Why do I feel like it's Jane himself? Well... it seems kinda impossible but still I have the hunch..." Yes, you will have that hunch until the end, even after that. Because you ignore the storyline and very few clues but instead, focus on an idea which has been processed in some other productions whether on TV or cinema.

" First I thought it was Partridge but since he's dead, now I'm 100% sure it's Haffner..." Don't worry, because you were actually 100% sure it was Partridge before.

" Red John is not a person, it's an organization full of people and when they combine together, they form up RJ". That reminds me of Voltron. Except, in Voltron there were lions instead of Tigers :)

Sorry if I seem too arrogant in choosing the way I put down the above examples however, we need to ask ourselves a few questions if we're trying to generate theories about the big mystery in this show which is Red John's identity and why he's doing what he's doing. Before going into that part, I'd like to say that I don't believe Heller in his all statements but I do believe something. RJ was designed from the beginning. I don't believe there were twists about his identity along the storyline.

1- Today's producers and/or writers aim to be unique with their products. I mean in the past, what mattered was how you told the story (that was how writers/directors/producers are differentiated and credited accordingly) but now it's more like "let me do the undone" kind of approach. Look at the shows in recent years (exclude the ones with cliche plots like mafia things, history things, etc. because you can't play much with those) such as Revolution, Lost, Prison Break, Breaking Bad, etc. All these shows add up something unique to their storyline. Lost was unique itself (it just ended bad), Breaking Bad was nothing new (in terms of drug trade and related issues) but added up a genius chemistry teacher to go out of line as irreversible (has it been done before? No). Prison Break centered on a break out (that part was done before many times) but the fiction behind the trap was unique. Revolution is again unique by its plot. So, this means that in today's show world you have to do something new (and do it good) in order to take your place among the unforgettable (after making money of course). Because the competition (as it is everywhere in each sector) gets tighter and tighter every year and these people must make a difference in order to spark. So, the question is; do you really think that Heller will give us the pleasure of actually guessing the real thing until he reveals it? Allow me to retort: NO WAY!

2- We tend to think of the concept "CLUES" all the time. And this is why we're mixing up the real clues with the false ones and things get quite messed up in our minds and finally we come up with stupid theories most of the time. I have seen many of the theories on this site as well as on others and I can frankly say that there are many people here even more successful than many of the professionals in criminal field. But, this you can only do by bringing clues together and generate thoughts because this is how it's made. If the false clues (red herrings) and real clues get mixed together, your judgement is born dead. If there is a cat and mouse play is going on, this is happening between us and show's producers / writers. 

So, if I am right; I mean the show's creators mean to be unique with their product, then it's a really tough job to actually know what will happen and who RJ will be. Because people's minds always tend to flow in a direction where similar stories had taken place and look for similarities in order to guess things right. After all, all of us posting theories here are doing this for what? CREDIT. To be praised by others. When the show reveals its secret, to be able to say "I was the one who thought it correctly. See how clever I am?". While we do have this urge to outsmart each other here in this platform, just think about Heller's position having all the strings in hand. There are some people (the ones I laugh at most) saying: It's Haffner, I know! Why? Because I have a hunch... Good for you to have such a talent bro, why don't you use it to tell me where my lost socks are?

Of course, we will post our theories but repetitions of many other theories with very similar reasonings are kinda boring. Don't get me wrong, everyone has the right to write whatever he/she chooses to. But it just doesn't contribute to anything when we keep posting the same things with same deductions. You may curse at me, criticize me, dislike me, I respect that. But one thing you must admit; what I'm saying is true...

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Theory #5486 • By colochozas
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based on the he is MAR thing it can only be

Gale bertram because bertram in reverse is MARtreb
 or 
MacAllisteR

Bertram is like 6'3, is almost bald and i can't really see him beeing RJ. so my pick is the sheriff

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After watching episode 2 of season six, I heavily suspect Partridge. He was hardly mentioned after his "death". Im almost 100% RJ's phobia has to do with pidgeons after seeing how Jane watched them. The description we got can't be trusted. RJ would know if she was recording it, he wouldnt do something to stupid without thinking. So basicslly take the description and forget about it. We all got distracted by the whistling, but that was meant to be misleading. There was a reason there wasn't anything about Partridge, RJ wouldnt give hints about who he truly is. 

But I could easily be wrong.

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This seems to be getting very confusing, but after Jane walks in on the meeting with the 3 suspects, Jane leaves and then a comment is made:Agent Smith says to Bertram: Exactly how much does Jane know? Bertram responds saying: That is the question, Agent smith responds: Its your job to know the answer, Bertram responds saying that he is doing his best. My theory is Red John is not Just one person but a group of people, Red John is made up of all seven those suspects

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I've only read about 15 theories, so I don't know if someone else has the same opinion, but here's one of my guesses:
I believe the voice plays an important part in RJ's identity. Clearly he has an american accent (see the part with "Tiger, tiger, burning bright [...]"), so I guess Bret Stiles can easily be ruled out. As well as, maybe, the sheriff. RJ's voice is natural, there's no sign of (major) voice alteration on purpose. So, presuming that he indeed is one of the six remaining suspects, based on voice recognition I'd say he's either Bob Kirkland or Ray Haffner. Of course, there are obviously several other aspects to be analyzed...

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If you only had season 1 for guessing who is red john, who should you pick?
Season 1 presents us the team (aparently 4 regular "joe"s), Patrick (sociopath) and Patridge.
The only clue or evidence to Partridge, is that is strange and really interested or excited with the red john´s murdered scenes. In my opinion is a little far-fetched. Probably,he is really dead, but nevermind this is a tv show, he shouldn´t come back again.
The cast of the team, nothing tells us about to suspect with evidence or clues about none of them, just second guessing, i think.
Well that remains Patrick, a clear narcisist sociopath, with clear objective, solve crimes to amuse him and catch red john. Why does everybody that confronts him end up being caught by red john? even the "childish" Lisbon, that end up with a clown-red-john-face, for me, it was a warning. The FBI woman, wainright, Lorelei, almost everyone ends up dead or crazy.
What about all the clues that are left ther since season one? he was in a mental inst., he has the brains and malevolance to have murdered all that people, why? simply because he is crazy, and a very complex sociopath, i think Jane´s problem is being to smart and evil, thus he represents the fight between good and evil, his will against his nature. I think the tyger is a message to Patrick from is black side Red John, just like the smile, they are private messages expressing a strong will to merge the two personalities in just one.
Patrick caught every killer, dumb or smart in one episode, probably he just can´t catch himself, first he has to acknowlage and embrace what he trully is, a killer, a Tyger, in his killer and bright nature, beautiful and dangerous. The Lamb persona, Patrick, in my opinion, it´s Red John playing the ultimate game with himself.
This is only my opinion and it should produce a hell of a final.
The list of seven, i just believe that they are involved in something really dangerous and illegal, but they are not red john, just guys who Jane/John is using to play a game, pawns...

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 Hi guys, i will try to look in the small details, cause for me if we look in the bigger picture, it's possible to accuse any of the suspects, Bruno Heller is playing with us, not a very nice guy if you ask me.

 I'd like you to keep some things about Red John in mind while reading this.

1. He admires Jane, he thinks of Jane as a 'friend' and even loves Jane in a certain way (Brett Styles says that, and he kept and saved Jane's life until now for a reason).
2. He's bold, not afraid of being caught, he knows how damn good he's, so I don't think Red John wouldn't do extreme changes in his personality just to keep the police off his tracks.
3. He loves women, in his own psycho and disturbed mind, but he do.

Ok, now with the suspects, i will stay with the 7 suspects, cause I don't want to go mad thinking about all the others.

Partridge: Dead. Period.
.. Okay, even if he wasn't, if you think about the 2 point I listed above, Partridge plays dumb, don't think that a narcissist would play a dumb character just to avoid suspicion. And yet, Partridge hates Jane.

Bertram: like this one, and till the S06E02 he was my favorite, but some things happened.
Assuming from season 3 finale that he's connected to RJ, or is RJ himself (a lot of theories about this on this site, not going in details, sorry). Now in the reunion with Reede Smith and Mcallister, Reede Smith was literally pushing Bertram, giving him orders and saying what he's suppose to do. If Bertram is RJ, it would not happen, not with Reede Smith leaving the room alive.
Oh, and Rigsby thinks he's RJ, Rigsby is always wrong.

Brett Styles: hard to eliminate too, but in one of his conversations with Jane, he talks about RJ as someone bellow him "Oh, I know things that you and your friend Red John would never imagine" or something like that, I don't think he would put his alter ego in a position like that, it's like Bruce Wayne badmouthing Batman, and again, he's a narcissist, a narcissist never talks this way about himself.

Haffner: don't remember the episode, but when he assumes the team, Van Pelt tries to talk to him about some development in the case, he ignores her, not even a glance at the beautiful Van Pelt, RJ is obsessed with women, it goes against his nature to ignore beautiful women.
   Oh and about the Lisbon not being dead that some people are arguing that RJ didn't kill her because he likes her.. I don't think so, Red John asks Jane to kill Lisbon. Ok, he knew that Jane wouldn't do that, but only the asking part is good enough to assume that RJ doesn't care that much about her.
   Now, if you ask me why RJ didn't kill Lisbon, I think that is because he knows that if he killed her, Jane would have another break down and spoiled all the fun he has 'playing' with Jane.
  Another aspect about RJ here, he likes to play his mental games with Jane, and I know all of you already noticed this. With Lisbon dead he would miss this. So I think RJ is leaving Lisbon for his grand finale.

 Bob Kirkland: Don't have much to say about him, except that he does things in a way too.. rusty i guess, hiring people to break Jane office, killing the guy in the hospital with a pillow, seems too much no-red john to me.

Reede Smith: again, not much, he indeed gives orders to Bertram, but he seems a little bit uncomfortable (body language) in the meeting in this episode. And he's too fat, but I'm trying to stay out of physical characteristcs here.

McAllister: In contrast with Haffner, do you remember what was his reaction when he was alone with Van Pelt? Creepy, a lot creepy. In the meeting scene of the last episode, he was the one with the more relaxed body language, like "I own this place", he didn't talk much too, and very often the person who talks less in this type of situation is the one with more value between the presents.
He asks Jane to call him Tom too.

Oh, and Sophie says that RJ doesn't like adversities, but we know that RJ likes to play his mental games, so I assume that RJ only likes to play when he knows that he's going to win. Remember the reaction when he loses the rock, paper or scissors? Silly, I know, but its worthy to mention, it's the only time we saw him angry.
The interrogation scene in S01E02 where McAllister gives a look to the person and she starts talking is a bit strange too.

And that's it. I'm probably wrong, but that's just some notes I made that I'd like to share with you. Sorry for any mistakes, english is not my native language.

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