Haffner is clearly RJ, and Brett Stiles is his father trying to protect is crazy son.
Haffner is clearly RJ, and Brett Stiles is his father trying to protect is crazy son.
We got that Red John got "Acrophobia" Fear of hights, he does not fear birds or what you guys r talking about in here
heres a screen with the sub
http://gyazo.com/4adcd79f279f74731b22881a2959dd04
second: In the next episode "Red Weeding" Jane will look up sheriff Thomas Mcallister to get more info if hes Red John or not
Jane's on a high roof on that episode with sheriff Thomas Mcallister, Jane is almost fallign down from the roof, but grabs something soo he wont fall off, then sheriff Thomas Mcallister is walking to jane wheres he hanging for his life, like a man, sheriff Thomas Mcallister is not afraid of heights.
witch means we can take him off the list aswell
heres the vidd that shows what im talking about, if my english was to bad :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfgrpESqCgw
The cult of Red John is made up of a lot of people, but there is one leader. Is he Kirkland? or is He Heffner? Because Bertram, Smith, and McCallister are out. Partridge is dead, and Stiles is too old. What was telling in that scene was the following: McCallister had no clue how far Jane has gotten..."What is this?" was his words.
Smith was exetremely interested in what Jane knows, and with that an obvious RJ accomplice. Bertram is very close to the leader of the Red John cult and so he know's that Jane is close, but I believe the leader has reassured him, but to keep close watch on Jane. This is how Bertram knew that "Jane's getting close",(In Bertram's and RJ's mind "or thinks he is getting close" (from episode 1)
I think that Haffner is RJ now...He has an arrogance around him. He is connected with Stiles through visualize, and he evaded the question as to if he was at the farm. He didn't deny it with exact words nor did he affirm. In episode 2 he was seen with Bertram at the beginning of the show in the office...that maybe how he got information that Lisbon was ok, and where she was, but also a follow up on the murder of BP, but that is speculation..he was just shown with no dialog.
As far as Kirkland goes..we will have to wait till the 4th episode to see Kevin Corrigan again, as it seems on the tracker from episode 1 he was in Los Angeles, or at least his main cell phone was.
The 2 closest to BP when he was killed: Bertram, and Haffner...
It will be interesting to find out about McCallister this coming sunday..Jane on a roof with the sheriff hovering over him like a hunter...
The main difficulty with froming a theory about who Red John is, is that there is very little we know for sure. For instance, we do not know for sure that Partridge is dead, we do not know for sure that the list of suspects is real, etc. We also do not know who has been manipulated by Red John to tamper with evidence. This is particularly relevant the the murdered psychiatrist. It seems unlikely that Red John did not know of the recording, leaving us with questions once again.
One interesting thought that occurred to me is that several of the Red John suspects are relatively famous people. Thus it seems unlikely that the psychiatrist would not recognize them upon meeting. So we are left with to alternatives: Red John's face is not well known to public, or the psychiatrist has been working for Red John. Red John has had his subjects killed before, usually right before they could give Jane some important clue. If this is true then there would have to have been more contact between Red John and the psychiatrist than just one meeting, in order to establish such a strong connection. This might very well be a clue addressed in future episodes.
If she is not working for Red John, however, there are some suspects that she should have recognized from local news: Bertram and Stiles. This does not mean we can completely rule these suspects out, but they can be seperated from the others if we make a very big assumption.
No discussion about teresa's dream?
The show is titled 'The Mentalist'.....which is what Heller appears to be :) and he has been extremely successful in playing with your minds hasn't he ? ;)
So assuming that RJ is on that list
AND
that RJ has now started killing the suspects one at a time (Brett P was his first vic) on that list
I think PJ should now take a break, go on a vaca, in the meantime RJ would have killed 5 more suspects on that list thus eliminating 6 suspects :)
Et Voila !!!! PJ returns from vaca and arrests RJ !!!!!! WOO HOO
Thanks Bruno, for making it so simple for all of us :)
I'm betting on Raymond Haffner. This is my theory:
Let's begin from Sophie Miller's description for Jay Roth (a.k.a. Red John or Ray Tagliaferro). I should pay attention just on the remarks we can surely proove in the first to episodes of the new season:
- the whistle - in the second episode are 3 people who are whistling (hope I wrote correct) in some circumstantions: first one is Ray Haffner, the second one is Reed Smith and the last one is Thomas McAllister. Ray and Reed have a short whistle, while, in the end of the episode, Tom has one longer. We would be tempted to say that Tom fit best the description. I don't think so! I'm guessing on one with a medium whistle ---> Raymond Haffner!
- damaged and narcissistic personality - There I woul think about Gale Bertram and Raymond Haffner (yes! again him!). I also woud thing about Brest Stiles (but not too much). The free are, now, when I am writting to you, leaders, in some way, of their groups: Gale Bertram CBI director, Bret Stiles the Visualize leader and Ray Haffner a NEW leader of a private investigation group (or somehow). What intrigues me is why, in the 5th season, Haff decide to create that private society. I've deduced that he maybe likes to controll the situation, being in the center of the group without being seen or known by anyelse. He cares his body, him entire. That could be a narcisistic type. His face on the final of second chapter really scared me. Is something to care about. I don't know very well, but when he drinks coffee with Lisbon on that CBI rooftop, I bet he stay with his back to the view... About the damaged ehing, I can't say anithing.
- looking convincingly - yes, in my opinion Ray Haff looks so.
Ray Haffner looks like he cares about Lisbon, maybe even loves her. He've made her that offert for a private job as detective: to no body else but her!
Now, I hope you noticed how (in the first chapter of season 6) Red John moves his finger(s) on Lisbon's mouth. You would say that he is doing so because he paints her face (mouth). But look on the way he is doing this: very gently, like he cares about Lisbon. He wants the paint to be accurate, even perfect. That scene prooved me that Lisbon may signify something special to him. (R.J.) !
Back to Haffner! Look the way he seats on the Lisbon's bad, at the hospital. Even Jane wouldn't stay like this (not for the first moment he enters the room!). I would appreciate the Haffner's seating is just like a boyfriend who would do this for his girlfriend! ---> Ray Haffner likes her, R.J., may likes her... Or is just a way to proof each one domination towards Lisbon. Just a guess...
So that's why I'm thinking that Haff could be Red John!