I would like to learn something.

Is it possible that the list is fake, according to bruno heller's quotes?

He says RJ is one of the guys in the list, but as far as I understand, the list might not be Jane's real list. It could be formed of the fake evidence that Jane might have planted on his board, assuming RJ will get the info from his room.

Is the only explanation from Bruno is that RJ is in the list? If it is the only one, then Jane might be a step ahead.

I think it's a double play by Jane. He made up the whole suspects-on-the-board thing. Proof for that is when Jane got back from one case in one of the last episodes, he saw that someone has been in his room (the little feather or piece of paper or whatever, laying on the floor before the door that was planted by Jane) and he smiled, meaning he wanted Red John to see the board so it has to be fake. What was Jane trying to accomplish? Maybe the outcome is just as he expected - to made Red John angry, but what for? so he'd kill more offen? i dont get it :/ but I still think its a double play by Patrick.

First of all awesome list I dont think its gonna be styles fun character think he will be in the next season an helps Jane catch him. I think its Thomas because Xander Berkley is a pretty big actor who has not been on the show since the second episode. Why else bring him back, a couple of those guys are working for him, but styles is gonna help jane next season and were finally gonna find out who red john is, preferably early on.

I still don't understand how Red John got the knowledge of Patrick's exact same 7 suspects, and even weirder, how did he know who the suspects were before Patrick? This tape with Lorelei when she is speaking for Red John was shortly before she was killed, the bandage from the gunshot wound on her left arm proves it. Which means the tape was recorded just after Lorelei told Jane she was going after Red John to kill him, and this was in episode 16. Jane narrowed down the list in the season finale, 6 episodes later. Which brings me back to my question: How did Red John know about the list and the 7 names? It's like Red John knows exactly what Jane is thinking because I don't really see any other connections here. I also don't understand HOW Patrick really narrowed down the list to these 7 individuals specificly, in what way? The Elliston farm? Members from Visualize, how? Visualize absolutely refused CBI to look at any membership from 1988 or any year before or after. I don't see any connections to this at all. I'm going crazy...

God, I hope it's not one of the seven on the list!   They're all too implausible as a charismatic cult leader and someone obviously obsessed with Patrick Jayne.  Also, we've lost all the references to the Blake poem.  Red John has devolved somewhat into "some California serial killer" as Jayne put it in one episode when he asked why would the FBI be interested?  Murderous cults might attract a little government and media attention.  Profilers wouldn't be interested in this, college professors, 48 Hours?  

I hope Bruno Heller isn't quite telling the truth about there being no more twists.  We've been through so many unsatisfying ones, at least make the truth the "twistiest" of all.

Without looking at every episode, I somewhat doubt all the clues get planned out not knowing how long a show is going to run, the best theory I have and think is the most satisfying without making it Jayne or Lisbon and making the reruns unwatchable:

Patrick Jayne's wife.  

Who else would have so much reason to be obsessed with him?  And also, "Red John" made Patrick Jayne a good man.    Patrick Jayne is a complex character, the wife he still wears a wedding ring for probably wasn't a simple uncomplicated person.      

  

There are some points which i would like to present. ***Major Spoiler***







1. None of the 7 persons listed in Episode 22 Season 5 are likely to be Red John, my original choice was Stile, but it seems he has more light then dark inside of him. I can say there are 4 people on the list working for him. 

2. Episode 22 was a trap for Jane, the kill was not made by Red John. This is like a optional move for the game from Red John, if she was not a fond memory of the past then Jane wouldn't have pursuit the case, as the killer said "he(red john) said should this happen he told me to give you something" Red John him self was not sure if she was. 

3. The creation of the "Board" was the trap for Red John, Jane knew there was a mole in his rank. Therefore, how do one unmole a mole? you spread rumor and confusion in your ranks, so that they slip false information to your enemy. ( I will not define this further as it will spoil next season) Why did Jane burn the board? it is because the message on there was delivered and you need the illusion of solving the problem by burning the answer. (another Magician Trick)

4. I am thinking that Red John is not scared of Jane. He threaten to kill again because he was mad that he was the only one not on the list, he was under estimated. How do you get a Tiger Angry? you disrespect it. Red John thought Jane knew him well like a soul mate in mirror, this was also reflected in use of "Tiger Tiger". There are always two side of a coin. And he tease Jane for making such assumption, "you think you are smart?" for me it was like " i thought you would be smarter then this". If Red john did not like Jane he would have had him killed a long time ago, Jane is a constant reminder of Red John, a past, a present and a future. 

There is strong evidence that the revealed list was a fake planted by Jane.  Jane was excluding people based on clues revealed in Season 5. 

The knowledge that RJ was a kid when the smiley was painted on the barn would exclude Stiles from the list because he is far too old.

Kirkland shook hands with Jane after Lorelei was in prison and there is no way that RJ would sneak a message into Lorelei just to tell her that he's finally met and shaken hands with Jane. 

According to Jane's criteria, neither of these would've made it on to Jane's list so the list must have been a fake.

It only makes sense because season five spent a great amount of time building up Kirkland as a character so he could steal Jane's list.  Regardless of whether the list is real or fake, it would be statistically impossible for RJ to guess Jane's exact names plus the number seven for suspects without stealing it from Jane.  Yes RJ might have spent hours listing people Jane might have met and narrowed it down himself but it impossible that he would narrowed it down to the exact same number and names.  It would be complicated to have Lorelei make the video before Kirkland stole the list but not impossible if RJ had also stolen Jane's longer list of suspect and edited Lorelei afterward.

The show delibrately show Jane setting a trap with the toothpick and smiling when he realizes that someone broke in to his loft.  The only reason for that smile would be if Jane had planted the list.

Heller said that RJ is definitely on Jane's list but we never heard all of Jane's list.  Jane only said Bertram and he never confirmed that RJ's list was his own.  You'd think that if the list was real, Lisbon would looked to Jane to see confirmation that RJ had guess right.  That the episode doesn't include that confirmation and mutual questioning of RJ's methods, means that the writers did not want to absolutely confirm the list. 

Everyone has been disappointed by the list judging by the comments.  I can't believe that the writers would be stupid enough to choose flat characters as suspects when they've spent so much time building up really good suspects like Mashburn, Winter, Harken, etc.  This is just a very clever mislead.  Heller didn't lie when he said RJ was on Jane's list but we haven't heard Jane's list yet - only RJ's prediction which was likely planted by Jane.  Heller didn't lie when he said names would be named either.  We heard names but we don't know if they were the correct names.  This is like the Season three final where it seemed obvious that RJ was dead.