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My current #1 theory is Red John is Detective Marco Francis.

He is played by the talented actor Brad Rowe, who incidentally, is the same age as Simon baker.

- He is very attractive, and resembles Simon Baker physically, has short straight hair and is about the same height as well.

- We've only seen him in a scene in the beginning of the episode 1x07 "Seeing Red". The original script, however, includes one more scene near the end of the episode where he tries to flirt with Lisbon (unsure why that was cut off from the episode).

- He lived in the same town as Kristina Frye, so that could explain a possible previous connection between the two.

- Being a detective, he is likely to be connected with other law enforcement officers both in the CBI and FBI.

- He is "Mar..."

- According to episode 5x13, even though Jane extended the age frame to 30s, I imagine Red John to be actually "kid", a teenager at the time he started killing, much like Rae Haffner, probably a disciple of Brett Stiles and Brad Rowe certainly fits that time range.

- I find it a bit strange that this particular actor only has a few lines in one scene in such a pivotal episode. Brad Rowe is usually more prominent as a guest star in other tv shows, and from what I've seen of his work, he is really good at playing innocent / evil guy. From a casting perspective, it's kinda odd that he played such an insignificant part and was never seen again. I can't help feeling Bruno Heller is hiding this guy as much as possible because once he makes another appearance, it will be evident he was Red John all along.

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Hi fans.

The fact is, only Bruno Heller knows who Red John is. The director always confuses us and he previously mentioned: "everybody will try to find out who is the mysterious serial murder, but when Red John be reveal, the audience will be very disappointed"

Also fact is, Patrick Jane isn't Red John.

I tried to figure out who Red John is, but there are a lot of red herrings in the series, therefore I gave up. Also fact is, Patrick Jane isn't Red John.

Unfortunately, we have to wait, but I hope, in this season, finally we will see the unmask Red John.

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My theory is based on subtle hints throughout the show.


Lorelei states that she finds her happiness from "faith"
faith being any theory that defines life, that you believe.

Faith Just like Visualize.
Visualize a group to make you the very best.
Taking any person and making them a enhanced "better" person.

Imagine a young RedJohn recruited by visualize.

Sent to a barn where they were on drugs and grew insane.
What if he first Killed animals there and found he liked it. The drugs made him hungrier for more.

Being in Visualize he has the mindset to be an enhanced person: an enhanced killer.

Now In S05 E13  There were 3 bodies found in the barn.
1 Killed by a girl 2 killed by Red John.
I believe Visualize held information about a 4th person working there(RJ), to hide his identity.

Do you remember how one of the workers at the barn used to be a criminal and then found Visualize and was told to cut off his biological family FOR visualize, Well no one else in Visualize had been told to do so.

Why would you need to "cut your biological family" out of the picture and act as if you have "a new life" ??
Visualize never had such rule. It is completely unnecessary.

His body was apparently at the scene. I don't think it was confirmed.
which leaves an open window.

In S04 E23 Jane hints that RJ wants him to "start a new life" subtle hint or clue.

My theory is that RJ is that man who cut his family off and "died/went missing"

The dragging leg I don't have any ties to I don't recall any one having a single leg injury. :(





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if you saw the episode when red john is telling the limerick or something like this. you will see that he is 5-10 cm taller than jane. its male. and i think its only one person. from s5 e13 we know that he was in visualize group or he was at farm warking i think he is one of the member, and i also think that bret stiles knows who is red john. i dont think that he is red john. there was a lot of theories and one of them was Jane. but he is not red john i'm 100% sure. cho isn't so tall as real red john. in group there is only one person rigsbey. and actually i dont think that red john is in FBI or CBI. im not 100% sure but i think bret pattridge also knows who is red john and maybe he is working on RD but he isnt RD. my opinion is that he is very close to him. i dont know who it is but there isn't many people shown in all 5 episodes who is 5-10 taller than jane. so someone must look every episode and see every male person who is 5-10 cm taller thank jane. if you interesting to discuss about red john. add me https://www.facebook.com/tato.kapanadze?ref=tn_tnmn

and i will try to discover something new.

sorry if i had some grammar mistakes.

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I have read a theory (theory #1315 by BeMyGuest1201)so I wanted to investigate... and I found something very interesting!

In
that theory, the user reports that if you pay attention and listen to
5x13 episode, you can hear that the steps of Red John (in the redhead
girl's flashback) were limping.

Well, I remember very well a guy who was lame!
go
to 2x08 episode; this is one of my theory: Do you remember CARTER PEAK?
Red John's supposed fourth victim? What if HE was (and he IS) Red John?
Carter
Peak had an amputated leg and he used a prosthesis (we can see him on
Patrick's reenactment of the murder). Carter Peak is played by Casey
Pieretti and he has actually an amputated leg, but he is a stunt-man and
he is a great skater, so you shouldn't think that he is unable to do what Red John does.
His height is
5' 10½" (1.79 m, compatible with Roy Tagliaferro's height)
and he was born in 1966, so he is 47 years old.

Patrick

assumes that Red John want to hide Peak's DNA evidence, but what if he
wants to hide only the body? Maybe it isn't Carter Peak's body and Red
John makes Patrick to find the X-ray plates to make him believe that it
was.

Now pay close attention on 2x08 episode, min. 30:30;
Patrick
asks Rebecca a question and we all focus on her answer. BUT WAIT! When
Patrick mentions the DNA samples Rebecca has a strange reaction: She
mumbles a "mmm?" as to say "what are you talking about? DNA samples???".

So
I think that Red John's mistake is not what they make us to suppose.
And maybe the body they found was another person. Towlen Morning's death
is also weird: his body was frozen, so maybe it was taken from a morgue
cold chamber and maybe it isn't Morning's real body.

But there
is an element against this theory: Carter Peak lost his leg during the
first gulf war and it began in 1991; so in 1988 Carter Peak still had
his leg. So his steps were not limping, isn't it?

That's all!
I don't believe much in Carter Peak/Red John theory even if I thought it; but I believe that Peak's case is much more interesting than it seems. And so is also Morning's case.
What do you think about this?

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I think RJ is not Jane because in episoden 2x23 fake RJs have got Jane. RJ killed people who try coping RJ's work, saved Jane and told Jane a quote. It can't be Jane.If it is Jane it could be very big shock.

Red John seemed in 3x24. When Jane is sitting at the mall, somethings happened and Lisbon called Timoty Carter bla bla bla afterthat when Jane stood up, RJ walked away. RJ is near of Timoty who wearing RED sweater. When Timoty Carter was talking on the phone, looks like speaking to that guy. It might be RJ but Jane hasn't shaked hands. If it is gonna be crisis, we must know RJ now.

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It is very possible to be Brett Partridge but it will not be very big shock when we learn who is RJ. Lorelie said Jane you are just like RJ and really Brett and Jane's behaviors are similier.

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Back to the Tyger, Tyger poem. In simple terms, this poem begs two questions:

-Who created Red John? ie: someone by some intention drove RJ to be the person they are (on-purpose, not on accident)
-What was their motive in doing so?

People, someone made RJ into the person they are. Shaped and molded RJ, with reason.

After thinking about this, I'm inclined to believe it was from some form of abuse.

Theories:

Lisbon's other, un-named brother, by her abusive and deceased (suicide) father

Bret Stile's son, by his father's own will

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