Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Reede Smith
Reede Smith


SPOILER: How season 7 ends, no matter what bullshit Heller tries to pull.

After Copper Bullet, Jane uses the favors he did Abbot to convince him to cut his leash from the hands of the FBI and go on protected from indictment for his murder, allowing him to quit with Teresa as a free man.

'Lazarus' is brushed off as a very subpar villain of Thomas Mcallister-esque proportions, the likes of whom even James Panzer outshines, and Jane and Lisbon get married as we all know is inevitable in White Orchids.

They have a house, they have a baby. Jane quickly realizes he needs a source of income if he is going to support his new family, so he takes up the psychic business again. It is, after all, what he is best at. Some years later, many people know Jane is the man who killed the famous serial killer Red John, so he speaks his mind on a talk show on what he felt about Red John, maybe changing a few details here and there. What an evil, sexually perverted, squalid egomaniac of a sociopath with pathetic delusions of grandeur he is. Who cares, he's dead right? It's been a few years, he killed him.

When that's done, he calls his wife to ask how she and the baby are doing, but gets no response.

"Must have a poker game." Patrick laughs to himself, assuming also the baby is being babysat by Grigsby before heading home.

He walks inside, closes the door behind him, wheels the children's training bike gifted by Grigsby aside, then steps up the stairs with a stupid smile on his face.

You can feel the dread when Patrick realizes there is another note on the door.

On the letter reads: "This is what happens when you fuck with me, Bruno."

The door opens to blotches of red on the wall, quickly bringing into focus the eyes of hell incarnate, that distinct pattern of blood trails that instantly shatters Patrick's very sanity.


Cue reboot of the series on a different network, with writers who are actually competent enough to bring Red John the closure it deserves, with the kind of mastermind it deserves, and final confrontation it deserves.

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I'd like to thank everybody who took part in sharing their vote in regards to the way Bruno Heller handled the end of Red John. We cracked about 60 votes which was way more than what I initially thought we'd get. Between Molly's survey and my poll I can definitively say we have roughly around 100 people (active on this website) who are still upset with how Red John's demise was done. Bruno Heller should be ashamed of what he's done. He created such an engaging show with an unprecedented level of quality and turned it into a cheese-fest like soap opera. This is unnacceptable. How many times do creators and actors from various television shows come out and tell the fans (all of them) how much they appreciate their support and say that. IT IS BECAUSE OF US AND PEOPLE LIKE US WHO ALLOWED THE MENTALIST TO GO ON FOR OVER 6 SEASONS. I HOPE THAT BRUNO HELLER HAS A MISERABLE CAREER AND NEVER PRODUCES A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT EVER AGAIN. I hope the last few episodes are Red John related. But unfortunately, it'll probably be more cases, Lazarus will be like a killer from the god-awful: The Following (generic guy trying to follow in the footsteps of a killer {in this case Red John}; rokkie amateur) and jisbon wedding. I hope I'm wrong because no matter how much harm has been done, the last 4 episodes could still fix a lot. Nonetheless, you are all true heroes and the best of fans: the dedicated and educated kind. Never will a show ever in the history and future of time ever have a fan-base as strong as the original Mentalist's fan base. Once again, thank you all for your votes and no matter how it all ends, it was a good journey for about two-thirds of it.

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Well, here's my take on this week's episode:  "The Whites of His Eggs" ….err, I mean, "Eyes" 

There's the GOOD, BAD and the UGLY [and the just plain STUPID]

1)  THE GOOD:  The story of the week.  Wow, I actually liked it.  It had a decent amount of suspense and the assassin was formidable.  When just about every other villain makes for a better RJ than the RJ we got, the question: "Do you think 6x08 was a success?"  is a no brainer.  It's NO, because Lydon could have been a better RJ, period.  No one should qualify to be better than what we got but everyone does at this point [except for Haibach LOL]  And, in this episode, the bad guy went down like a bad guy should, properly beat at his own game minus pigeon tricks.  

2) THE BAD:  the beginning and ending bits, that focused on Jibson's "relationship" 

a)  the beginning bit -- 
So just as we're all complaining about Lisbon's recent "adhering to gender roles due to her new relationship" -- they throw us"Lisbon beats Jane at foosball" to show, that indeed, Lisbon has not been traded in for a Stepford Wife. 
And, let's not forget the scintillating dialogue in that opening sequence!

"Can we get some chicken wings?" Lisbon says.

"Sure.  We may have to get 'em to go," Jane responds.

"Can we get some chicken wings to go, please?"  Jane asks the waitress.

But then Lisbon gets a call from the boss.

"We need to go now," Lisbon tells Jane.

"Uh, 86 the wings!"  Jane shouts to the waitress, "Thank you. Sorry."

There I was….on the edge of my seat -- will they eat chicken wings at the bar?  Or will they eat wings in the car?  And then after all of that build up, they had to cancel their order!  DAMN FBI and people being killed all the time.  Clearly, Jibson must quit the FBI -- so they'll have more time to eat chicken wings, like normal couples.  
Jonathan and Jennifer Hart ALWAYS had time for a glamorous dinner, and they solved murders and chased bad guys while holding FULL TIME JOBS [and having great hair].  Seriously!  Maybe Jibson needs a butler, like Max, back home in the RV.

b)  the ending bit -- we already saw it in the previews!!  There was absolutely positively nothing new -- nada zero -- whatsoever about those last few moments because we already heard Jane say "I'm protecting you" and Lisbon scowl "It's my job" on commercials all this week!  I love when they do that:  show us something, make us think there will be more, and then we watch to find out but -- Nope, that was it.  I thought that AT LEAST they'd have their FIRST FIGHT over a bucket of chicken wings!

I admit that I like the idea of these two fighting, it's definitely more true to the nature of their relationships -- SIBLING RIVALRY -- but I'm sure this "conflict of interest" is just another obvious plot ploy, to break them up so they can get back together again [Maybe THEN they'll finally have chicken wings together]
3) THE UGLY -- I mentioned in a previous post the "baby" and "family" symbolism we're being set up for -- this episode laid the "FAMILY" theme on SO thick, every other word in the dialogue was: "family" "baby" "kids."
this is what I found in the first 12 minutes of the episode: 
raised 3 brothers
good family men with young kids
young mother actually your family
our baby, are you even thinking about him?

someone else's child, too….that poor kid

a baby at home, and he's only 6 months old

what's you're baby's nameHenry -- After Matt's Dad

Henry's birthright
Mama taught me
the family members
little brother
the mom
the family
go see the family

My oldest boy
a middle child
there are THREE BOYS

I guess Heller thinks he can play "subliminal" Mentalist tricks on us, and that if we just HEAR the words: family, baby, kid, brother, mother, etc. mentioned enough in the dialogue -- we'll accept the ending of Jibson having a family better

4) THE utterly...STUPID!

1.  "It's a killer view"  -- [right before the assassin 'kills" the guy who said it, and then actually kills from the view], double entendre was never so idiotic
2.  "watch the man get beat by a girl" -- why is Jane a man and Lisbon a "girl?"  So, Lisbon is still deferring to Jane in a way that, welp, is uncharacteristic to who she's always been.    Yup, this insipid little storyline about Jane protecting Lisbon being is just a ploy that will get resolved at the end….by…you guessed it:  LISBON SAVING JANE [as if that's never happened before!]…[or Lisbon "coming to her senses" and realizing that she'd better let Jane save her?]  Easier to just get her pregnant and force her out  [as if law enforcement and military aren't parents]
3.  "Never play foosball with a woman whose raised 3 brothers" [meant to be a DEEP FORESHADOWING of the story of the week involving THREE BROTHERS]
 -- [insert yawn]
4.   VIDEO GAMES:  a bad guy from a violent family that kills people plays video games where he kills people, too, enjoying it a little too much.  But WAIT…can we really blame violent video games that reward obliterating human life, the Mentalist asks?  Maybe it's just WHO is playing since Wylie and Vega can play the same games and still be law abiding citizens.  Or maybe it's just saying that as long as you're on the right side of the law, it's okay to kill people in games -- because weren't these kinds of killing games originally meant for the military, but became mainstream for "fun" and perhaps that's not really the best thing for the youth of America….especially the youth with bad mothers?  'Cause it's the mother's fault, really.  [well, at least partially]  Hmm?  

In any case, the Mentalist want us to know they are *neutral* on the subject.  A violent video game does not make someone go out and kill --- it's just the killers who like to play them!  [and ruin it for all the good eggs out there like "Wega" who are just having plain old fashioned fun]

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My country was running the episode after RJ dies and it struck me really hard.. when Dennis Abbott
became this funny, smooth , boss ?

Coz watching that episode alone ... i see no single reason why i would come back and work for him.

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Theory #18651 • By Stoopkid
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I really enjoyed this episode even tho Brett Styles didn't pop out.
I have concluded one thing tho:
-there is no major story line, boss, bad guy.
There are not many episodes left and leading into the 2 hour finale i am assuming
it will cover a storyline from the past.
Nothing else will be important enough to use in a SERIES finale.

-Anyone get the feeling Jane or Lisbon will die at the seasons close?
They are setting it all up.
Jane worried about Lisbon asking her to retire and her resisting that notion.
I can see Jane being killed right before they were going to retire, and Rigsby and Van Pelt at the funeral.

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Now I'm watching this crap for it's music, and to laugh at how this cunts named "BH & team" are mocking at us all RJ fans, with all those red colors being flashed at us in some scenes ... fuck, for some minutes I thought the girl on the picture the sniper hold was Lorelai ... there were some good scenes from this hitman, but hey, think I watched 'em all before on classic movies ... bloody miserables ... Jisbon sucks big time ... theories here (a cheers for ya all) are better than the crap they are throwing at viewers ... I mean, what's the arc here ?, a couple of adults playing the shy-teen-agers role until it all ends with 'em parting ways or getting married ? ... screw that !!! ... at this point only Lazarus can save this shite ... but have to admit there's no hope ... just remember the couple of "evil" they created after McAllister murder ... both complete and absolute turd ... so Lazarus will be the mastermind, the real monster behind the scenes who directed the "R.J. con" using puppets from B.A. ? ... come on ... now they're saying there's a posibility of a season 8 ... LOL ... bring it on losers ... please contact David Lynch.

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