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Thomas McAllister
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Ray Haffner
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Bob Kirkland
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Bret Stiles
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Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Reede Smith
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So Strawberries and Cream part 1 was on TNT last night.  I hadn't realized it at the time but in hindsight it is very clear that either LaRoche or CBI Karl gave the bomber/gas station attendant keys to free himself from the cuffs when he was put into the cop car....most likely LaRoche from the looks of it.  His escape attempt then allowed LaRoche to kill him with impunity.  

Why does this matter?  It ties into the theory that the Ardilles/LaRoche murders were about tying up BA loose ends rather than some Hiabach revenge plot. 

Also, if I'm being cynical - and why not? - the episode includes another instance of Jane using a supposed profession of love to Lisbon to misdirect a bad guy.  (As he would later do when he fake kills her at the end of season 4.)  If history is repeating himself, perhaps the plane scene isn't as lame as it seems. 

My optimism knows no bounds...










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I think the best ending would be if Patrick Jane himself would be Red John. His other personality (which is RJ) purposely gives him hints for people that could be Red John so Patrick Jane goes and kills them (Sheriff, Timothy). Slowly Patrick Jane will become a serial Killer and will someday discover his true self and his other personality. He realizes that he is a danger for Lisbon and his friends and decides to kill himself to find true peace.

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My last hope...
The last hope for a great season 7 is that they already covered everything.
The series finale has to be crazy and suspenseful and if they already had Jane and Lisbon get together what else could be so crazy?
Now it could be them getting married but shit i hope not. Or cho but i doubt thats enough for a series finale .

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Theory #18387 • By Aza
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Bruno Heller has just confirmed there's gonna be a mini-series call "Red John chronicles". Hopefully they'll explain the details there.

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I've been trying to make sense of everything that's happened thus far.

It seems when the show just started, Bruno Hellar was very into mentalism and was attempting to weave a super comoplicated, but clever story.  At the end of the Red John storyline, it seems like he got tired of the story and just took a shortcut to get to the finish line.


I never got into the "multiple Red John" theories because I thought they were just too fantastic.  However, the more thought that goes into it, the more sense it makes.


So, how about this?


There has only been one Red John.  He died at Patricks hands just like Episode 6-8 shows.  However, there is a very intelligent (but terribly sick) person who has been playing Red John and Patrick against each other.  Neither Red John or Patrick knew he/she exists.  Patrick discovers this at the begiining of Season 7 and spends the rest of the season tracking him down and in the process explains all of the loose ends.  Thus, Bruno Hellar's reputaion as a brillant story teller.is redeemed.

 
Perhaps this is lame, but do any of you have any better ideas?

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QUESTION

In your opinion:

Which is the reason a lot of TV shows have crappy endings?
(ex. "LOST" , "Dexter" , "The Sopranos" , "How I Met your Mother" and so on)

P.S. 1:  You can add or disagree with some of my choices of course.
P.S. 2:
I didn't include "The Mentalist" because I don't know, we have a whole season ahead; things can happen.

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Just read a great theory in reddit from about 8 months ago...

It says that Rj was a drug addict who had a child a baby girl.
This baby girl was put in foster care because of Rjs drug issues.
Rj goes to the Elliston farm and gets clean.
He draws his first smiley face in tribute to his daughters face.
He kills his first victims and begins to streak...funny how he killed only red haired women at first and painted their toe nails. Maybe he was doing this because in some sick way his victims were his daughter in his eyes. (Thats my theory).
-His daughter is Grave Van Pelt. Grace was obviously in foster care that is almost proven in that one episode i brought up the other day. She was later adopted by Amos.
Now this theory writer then says for some reason Rj found Grace and was unhappy with Amos and how he treated her so he killed him. Maybe he even let Grace watch because this is the crazy traumatic thing that happended to Grace that she never told ANYONE. "Not even herself" Jane.

Now this theorist then makes a case for Cbi Ron being her dad. I dont buy this simply due to Rons age.
But he makes a compelling case. Ron is always there in weird places.

I think the poser was dead on here tho check out..

"RJ loves/admires Patrick Jane. He, therefore, doesn't want to kill him but become friends. In S06E01, after their little heads-up in the desert, Brett Patridge is scared by Jane. Patridge fears that Jane knows about the "Blake Association" and asks the "Blake Organisation" (BA) to kill Patrick (Patridge is a forensic guy, he doesn't carry , or doesn't even own, a gun..). Red John hears the information (whether directly because he's a member of the BA or indirectly because one of his disciple is a member, remains to be seen...) and has the urge to protect Patrick. Patridge put Patrick's life at risk- so RJ kills him. RJ tough has a problem. He thinks that the BA wants to kill Patrick- but he doesn't know who exactly is a member of the BA. Specifically, he doesn't know if Lisbon is a member or not- he has to figure it out. His plan is to lure Lisbon to a place, forces Patridge to say "Tyger Tyger" (maybe Patridge has a family and RJ threatens to kill them unless he says Tyger Tyger before he dies) and observes Lisbon's face / reaction. Due to her innocent reaction he realizes that she is not a member of the BA and lets her alive (he has to get out of the house tough, so he has to paralyze her). S06E02: The BA is worried about what PJ knows- the heads (Bertram, Sheriff and Reede) of different parts within the BA (e.g. CBI, FBI, others..) hold a meeting to discuss their current situation (Jane interrupts and then we hear Reede Smith asking "exactlyhow much does he know"- this question, though, is not about RJ but about the BA). Betram doesn't know but they assume that Patrick doesn't know much / nothing, decide to cut Patridge's tattoo away and to observe Patrick a bit better. S06E05: Reede Smith is highly uncomfortable with the situation and hires a private investigator (PI) to bug the CBI room. Jane finds it out and falsely assumes it was RJ. But: RJ would not need to kill the PI, RJ doesn't leave any trace. If RJ hired the PI; then the PI would not know ANY usable information. Reede Smith, on the other hand, isn't too intelligent. The PI knows information that point towards him- so Reede has to kill her before the police gets her. He's in a hurry, only wears his uniform and his duty weapon- which he can't use. So he takes off his suit (so blood spatter can't be seen; yet he doesn't know how he will kill her) and chokes her in his undershirt- giving her the possibility to see his tattoo. S06E06: The BA still believes that Patrick doesn't know about the BA, but finds it weird that he invites three of them into a meeting (no one knows that the PI told Patrick about the tattoo..)"

I like it especially about Tinsely being hired by Reede Smith.
That clears up the clumsiness of that escapade to me.
I am starting to buy the Cbi ron stuff because wow is he suspicious.
The poster says these points i have even said before...

1 rj was cleaning his knife with both hands during the phone call to Patrick.
We just assume he made the call. Great writing if true.
The EXACT SAME SECOND Rj calls Jane Cbi Ron walks past Jane and Uses his phone right before he cant be seen on camera.
2. Ron was walking to the hospital to protect Jane from the Ba.
His WHOLE team besides Lisbon and Jane were at Cbi.
There was no reason to show him at all!
3 copy cat killers way back when nobody knew where Jane was going but Jane did explain all HE KNEW to Ron and the team. Meaning Ron went there to kill them bc like Jane he figured it out.
4. Agent Darcy and the Morgue Murder
Jane and Darcy talk privately in the kitchen yet Ron was right there listening !
Darcy tells Jane she knows he brought Rosaline Harker to see Carters body blah blah ha ha.
5. Wayneright murder. We all can figure this one out.
Rj finally thought his dream was coming true. Jane was going to be his bff and really killed Lisbon.
BUT RJ finds out its a lie and gets pissed and to show his balls he kidnaps the highest ranking official and does some boss shit. We all saw.
BUT we all saw as Wayneright met Darcy and found out Rigsby wasn't really dead who is there?
CBI RON! WHO ELSE COULD OF KIDNAPPED WAYNERIGHT IN A MANNER OF MOMMENTS!
THIS IS THE BIGGEST CLUE OF THEM ALL BECAUSE WAYNERIGHT WAS FINE AND SAFE MOMENTS BEFORE THE LIMO EVEN PULLED UP AND HE WAS IN CBI OF ALL PLACES TOO!
The only person who could of saw what happened with fake RIgsby and have the time to kidnap Wayneright was Cbi Ron! Crazy stuff right?

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